Funny Irish perspectives of Race.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Do you ever notice a lot of Irish tend to refer to any none pasty white northern European as 'black.' They've no understanding of the Races.

I've heard Jason Sherlock being referred to as black. The O'hAilpin brothers also.

A college friend of mine told of how big ignorant cnuts in his locale of Dingle Co. Kerry would to refer to Spanish and Italian tourists as N1ggers. I mean wtf?

Both disgustingly racist and factually wrong.

barneystinson

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Do you ever notice a lot of Irish tend to refer to any none pasty white northern European as 'black.' They've no understanding of the Races.

I've heard Jason Sherlock being referred to as black. The O'hAilpin brothers also.

A college friend of mine told of how big ignorant cnuts in his locale of Dingle Co. Kerry would to refer to Spanish and Italian tourists as N1ggers. I mean wtf?

Both disgustingly racist and factually wrong.

No I've never noticed any of the things you describe.

DEFTLEFTHAND

sugarman wrote: »

Another "Only in Ireland", that is in fact not only in Ireland:rolleyes:

Seriously, this happens everywhere.

Does it? I think most people call tell the differences between a person of Asian, Caucasoid or Negroid apart.

Caucasoid very diverse of course. An Indian and a Swede for instance are both technically Caucasian.

archer22

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Does it? I think most people call tell the differences between a person of Asian, Caucasoid or Negroid apart.

Caucasoid very diverse of course. An Indian and a Swede for instance are both technically Caucasian.

It sure as hell doesn't "happen everywhere" but I have seen it in Ireland as well.

Hammer89

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Does it? I think most people call tell the differences between a person of Asian, Caucasoid or Negroid apart.

Is that a black robot?

buried

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Do you ever notice a lot of Irish tend to refer to any none pasty white northern European as 'black.' They've no understanding of the Races.

I've heard Jason Sherlock being referred to as black. The O'hAilpin brothers also.

A college friend of mine told of how big ignorant cnuts in his locale of Dingle Co. Kerry would to refer to Spanish and Italian tourists as N1ggers. I mean wtf?

Both disgustingly racist and factually wrong.

Sounds like you and your mates are hanging around a bunch of aggro-seeking cantankerous $hitheads.

I fail to see how this is Ireland's fault

Your Face

Kerry.

Jesus Wept

Poor effort.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Jesus Wept wrote: »

Poor effort.

These are legitimate observations of mine. This casual ignorance of race.

I'm not attempting to troll if that's what you're trying to imply.

spoonerhead

For some people in Dublin anyone from Eastern Europe is Polish, completely racist and ignorant...

Jayop

Maggie Carty wrote: »

On Alt-Right forums the Irish are sometimes referred to as 'potatoniggers'.

"Say it once and say it loud"

DEFTLEFTHAND

Maggie Carty wrote: »

On Alt-Right forums the Irish are sometimes referred to as 'potatoniggers'.

We used to be/still are called 'White n1ggers' in the the NY/NJ area. Largely used in the Italian communities.

They're a nasty bunch that alt right. As a conservative I denounce them. I despise all extremists.

Just as a classical liberal would denounce a regressive leftist.

fatknacker

Being black isn't reserved for sub Saharan Africans. Many Indians are black, Australian Aboriginals are black and NZ Maori's describe themselves as "blick as"

Anyway, the current non-offensive agreed on American term that refers to all non whites is "people of colour" if you say coloured people you'll be lynched.

Mrs OBumble

fatknacker wrote: »

Being black isn't reserved for sub Saharan Africans. ...
NZ Maori's describe themselves as "blick as"
.

Dont think so.

The rugby team may be All Blacks, but the indigenous people are brown.

DEFTLEFTHAND

fatknacker wrote: »

Being black isn't reserved for sub Saharan Africans. Many Indians are black, Australian Aboriginals are black and NZ Maori's describe themselves as "blick as"

Anyway, the current non-offensive agreed on American term that refers to all non whites is "people of colour" if you say coloured people you'll be lynched.

Caucasoid is scientifically not defined by skin pigmentation. It's bone structure, skull structure, facial features, hair growth pattern. The pencil test for instance in SA during the Apartheid regime.

Maoris and Aboriginals are referred to as Australoid or Melanasian.

Your Face

How about funny worldwide perceptions of the Irish?

For de craic like.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Your Face wrote: »

How about funny worldwide perceptions of the Irish?

For de craic like.

We've already had that earlier in the thread. We're not universally liked as we sometimes wish to think.

Spider Web

spoonerhead wrote: »

For some people in Dublin anyone from Eastern Europe is Polish, completely racist and ignorant...

Ignorant (not necessarily malicious though) but hardly racist in my opinion. Racism means hatred of/discrimination towards/distrust of a person or people purely based on their race. I don't see how getting nationalities mixed up would always mean that.

wakka12

Ive never heard even one person call somebody who looked of non-african origin black

JupiterKid

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Caucasoid is scientifically not defined by skin pigmentation. It's bone structure, skull structure, facial features, hair growth pattern. The pencil test for instance in SA during the Apartheid regime.

Maoris and Aboriginals are referred to as Australoid or Melanasian.

That is incorrect. Maoris are of Polynesian descent - who have ethnic links with East Asians and Aboriginals are thought to have originated from one of the first human migrations out of Africa. Melanesians are used to group Papua New Guineans, the Samang people of the Malay peninsula and Andaman Islanders together.

mikemac2

Jayop wrote: »

"Say it once and say it loud"

I'm black and I'm proud :cool:

Arsemageddon

I long for a return to the carefree days when boards wasn't bogged down with sh1t threads like this

DEFTLEFTHAND

Arsemageddon wrote: »

I long for a return to the carefree days when boards wasn't bogged down with sh1t threads like this

What's your problem with the thread Arse'..? Why is it sh1t?

I was trying to stir some debate on here (the place is dead recently), with a legitimate observation of mine.

Arsemageddon

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

What's your problem with the thread Arse'..? Why is it sh1t?

I was trying to stir some debate on here (the place is dead recently), with a legitimate observation of mine.

It is yet another thread about racism mixed in with a good helping of 'aren't us Irish a bunch of uniquely ignorant muck-savages'

Little wonder after hours is dying a slow death

DEFTLEFTHAND

Arsemageddon wrote: »

It is yet another thread about racism mixed in with a good helping of 'aren't us Irish a bunch of uniquely ignorant muck-savages'

Little wonder after hours is dying a slow death

That wasn't my intention in starting it.

I was merely trying to begin a discussion on the races and the ignorance which exists around them.

Maybe a bit too much for a weekend. Just trying to do my bit to keep the place going. It's dying and like yourself Arse'.. I'm worried about it

pickarooney

This Caucasoid/mongoloid/negroid nonsense belongs in the 19th century.

DEFTLEFTHAND

pickarooney wrote: »

This Caucasoid/mongoloid/negroid nonsense belongs in the 19th century.

Biological Science belongs in the 19th century?

DEFTLEFTHAND

There are differences between the races, if you're offended by that then there's nothing we can really do about it. Personally I think it's beautiful. We're different, So What?

Science and nature are based on fact not emotion.

EDit

It's not unique to Ireland. I grew up in England and a swarthy mate of mine (who had Greek origins, but was English) was often referred to as a "fookin' paki" during drunken altercations

Basically, there are ignorant fools everywhere

DrPhilG

Hammer89 wrote: »

Is that a black robot?

Korat

EDit wrote: »

It's not unique to Ireland. I grew up in England and a swarthy mate of mine (who had Greek origins, but was English) was often referred to as a "fookin' paki" during drunken altercations

Basically, there are ignorant fools everywhere

I get offended if I hear the term 'Paddy' depending on the circumstances. Even the tone of how it's spoken can be the difference between offence and endearment as being accepted in a group.

It's the later part that makes people think PC goes too far, no offence is given or taken, but it's ignorance of the first bit that compounds the problem.

Sam Kade

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Do you ever notice a lot of Irish tend to refer to any none pasty white northern European as 'black.' They've no understanding of the Races.

I've heard Jason Sherlock being referred to as black. The O'hAilpin brothers also.

A college friend of mine told of how big ignorant cnuts in his locale of Dingle Co. Kerry would to refer to Spanish and Italian tourists as N1ggers. I mean wtf?

Both disgustingly racist and factually wrong.

So who's this Patsy White fella

Poor Uncle Tom

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Do you ever notice a lot of Irish tend to refer to any none pasty white northern European as 'black.' They've no understanding of the Races.

That sentence could more accurately read:


Have you noticed that a lot of under educated people with limited life prospects tend to vent their sense of self oppression on anyone different from themselves.

My limited experience has thought me that no one race has the monopoly on bullying / ignorance / race-phobia and education can be the answer to most questions,

Sam Kade

mikemac2 wrote: »

I'm black and I'm proud :cool:

Racist b@stards those commitments, worse than the black and white minstrels.

Wibbs

pickarooney wrote: »

This Caucasoid/mongoloid/negroid nonsense belongs in the 19th century.

The attitudes that surrounded the definitions certainly P, but as a general description of the basic groups of world populations of modern humans it's pretty accurate.

OldMrBrennan83

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fatknacker

I heard people call a goalie on the Irish team Paki before and he wasn't even dark. Such racism. Appalling.

Sam Kade

Patww79 wrote: »

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He looks more like a chink.

Irish Guitarist

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Does it? I think most people call tell the differences between a person of Asian, Caucasoid or Negroid apart.

Caucasoid very diverse of course. An Indian and a Swede for instance are both technically Caucasian.

Most people in Ireland can too. The few people you're talking about aren't representative of the rest of the country.

spoonerhead wrote: »

For some people in Dublin anyone from Eastern Europe is Polish, completely racist and ignorant...

How in the name of all that's good and holy is mistaking one accent for another 'racist'? I can guarantee you if you went to a non English speaking country the majority of people would have no clue whether you were Irish or English.

I was with my sister and mother in a restaurant in Cyprus years ago. It was quiet and the waitress, a Polish woman, started a conversation with my sister. She asked my sister if she could guess where she was from. My sister thought about it for a minute and said "Poland". The waitress then asked my sister where she was from. She was surprised she was Irish because she thought "all Irish people had red hair and freckles".

blinding

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

We've already had that earlier in the thread. We're not universally liked as we sometimes wish to think.

This fable that everyone loves the Irish should be debunked in a lot of people heads .

Who is going to tell people that are known for fighting and drunkeness that they don't like them.......what could possibly go wrong .

Not to mention that to many cultures getting blotto-ed drunk is blooming crazy.....

You would be surprised how much of the British population think all Irish People are Irish Travellers.........

Spider Web

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

not universally liked as we sometimes wish to think.

By "we", I presume you mean those Irish who think that. I think this gets overstated - and on the flipside there is enough self loathing here to compensate. On social media I see far more of that than of hostility from other nationalities, to be fair.

Most people don't think too much about what other nationalities think of us, whether positive or negative.

Although the constantly drunken, loud, messy eejits abroad - in Australia especially - do let us down. It would be extremely simplistic of anyone to decide we are all like that though.

steddyeddy

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Do you ever notice a lot of Irish tend to refer to any none pasty white northern European as 'black.' They've no understanding of the Races.

I've heard Jason Sherlock being referred to as black. The O'hAilpin brothers also.

A college friend of mine told of how big ignorant cnuts in his locale of Dingle Co. Kerry would to refer to Spanish and Italian tourists as N1ggers. I mean wtf?

Both disgustingly racist and factually wrong.

Never heard that before. Do you not see the irony in painting every Irish person in the same light?

DEFTLEFTHAND

steddyeddy wrote: »

Never heard that before. Do you not see the irony in painting every Irish person in the same light?

I'm not painting every Irish person in the same light. I'm stating that it is common not universal.

archer22

Sam Kade wrote: »

He looks more like a chink.

I think this poster is one of the kind the OP was talking about :rolleyes:

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I'm not painting every Irish person in the same light. I'm stating that it is common not universal.

But it's not common at all. You need to get out more and see more of Ireland.

Poor Uncle Tom

archer22 wrote: »

I think this poster is one of the kind the OP was talking about :rolleyes:

Give Sam a bit of credit, The noise from your moral outrage motor is drowning out your sarcasm alarm.

archer22

Poor Uncle Tom wrote: »

Give Sam a bit of credit, The noise from your moral outrage motor is drowning out your sarcasm alarm.

Ok that's 2....seems to be quite a few around.

whisky_galore

barneystinson wrote: »

No I've never noticed any of the things you describe.

Me neither.
Must be the company you keep OP.