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Can you request a HC cut from general play?

  • 16-08-2017 1:20pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91 ✭✭


    Background:
    I have been playing golf for about 2 years. This is my second year playing. Started with 18 HC, and now down to 13. Started this season at 16 HC. 
    For the last 12-15 competitions I have placed, or come close. I've been scoring consistently 34-38 points stableford, or -1/2 to +1/2 in stroke play.
    Both in home competitions and away days with golf society at work.
    My Question:
    Can I request a cut from general play? Is this allowed?
    I'd really like to get down to single digits this season. But I've been stuck in the buffer zone most of the year.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,119 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    I dont know if you can or not, but my tupence worth is that I kinda did it before, well not so much general play, but when I had good scores in societies I sent them back to the club. Sometimes they cut me, sometimes they didn't bother. I wasn't really aware or understood how the handicap system worked back then but now that I do, I realise that when they did cut me, they were just by round numbers and nothing to do with the scores I had shot, so I guess they were general play reductions.

    But these were scores of 40 points, not buffer scores and I had a high handicap.

    We all want to play single figures but we have to work to get there. I'm not sure you can just ask for the cut. Your general play scores in the buffer do not suggest that you are a single figure golfer at the moment, so maybe practice harder and earn your cut by playing well on the course.

    If you shoot good scores in outings, send them back to the club handicap secretary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91 ✭✭darraghking22


    Seve OB wrote: »

    We all want to play single figures but we have to work to get there. I'm not sure you can just ask for the cut. Your general play scores in the buffer do not suggest that you are a single figure golfer at the moment, so maybe practice harder and earn your cut by playing well on the course.

    Oh sorry, i didn't mean to imply that I was currently a single digit golfer. But I think I should be cut by 1 or 2 shots? Do you not agree?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,119 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    Oh sorry, i didn't mean to imply that I was currently a single digit golfer. But I think I should be cut by 1 or 2 shots? Do you not agree?

    no I don't. you have been cut 3 shots already this year. you are not shooting extraordinary scores if you are only in the buffer. if you were, then ESR would kick in and help you get down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 553 ✭✭✭morrga


    The handicap system works on the merit that your handicap reflects your ability.
    To lose shots you have to beat the CSS. You cant just request a reduction just to label yourself something your playing performance doesn't concur with at the moment. As Seve says, earn your reductions on the field of play not on paper.
    You don't ask for a promotion to the first team in your local football club. You earn it through ability and dedication.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,006 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Bit of an odd request to be honest.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 675 ✭✭✭plumber77


    morrga wrote: »
    The handicap system works on the merit that your handicap reflects your ability.
    To lose shots you have to beat the CSS. You cant just request a reduction just to label yourself something your playing performance doesn't concur with at the moment. As Seve says, earn your reductions on the field of play not on paper.
    You don't ask for a promotion to the first team in your local football club. You earn it through ability and dedication.

    Exactly this. Earn the right for a lower handicap and enjoy the challenge of getting there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,513 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    callaway92 wrote: »
    Bit of an odd request to be honest.

    Nice to see someone wanting to be as low as they can be as opposed to the usual new posters we have who come in to give out about being cut too much


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,119 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    Rikand wrote: »
    Nice to see someone wanting to be as low as they can be as opposed to the usual new posters we have who come in to give out about being cut too much

    i think we all want to be as low as we can. we just cant ask for a leg up to help get us there quicker


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 981 ✭✭✭mighty magpie


    Rikand wrote: »
    Nice to see someone wanting to be as low as they can be as opposed to the usual new posters we have who come in to give out about being cut too much

    subtle :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭gypsy79


    I am going to be out for a while, having had an organ removed

    Hoping get playing asap but should I ask for an increase to make me competitive for a while

    Really dont want to be out struggling to break 20


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,939 ✭✭✭Russman


    gypsy79 wrote: »
    I am going to be out for a while, having had an organ removed

    Hoping get playing asap but should I ask for an increase to make me competitive for a while

    Really dont want to be out struggling to break 20

    I possibly wouldn't phrase it in terms of wanting to be competitive and I reckon the club would need evidence you can't play to your existing handicap before they'd entertain it. Most likely it would happen at annual review.

    Its definitely possible though, I had surgery a few years ago and got two shots back, totally out of the blue, from 5 to 7. I never asked for anything and I had no inclination it was coming, but anyone looking at my scores (who also knew about the surgeries) would have seen I was struggling and would have made the connection.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,119 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    Russman wrote: »
    I possibly wouldn't phrase it in terms of wanting to be competitive and I reckon the club would need evidence you can't play to your existing handicap before they'd entertain it. Most likely it would happen at annual review.

    Its definitely possible though, I had surgery a few years ago and got two shots back, totally out of the blue, from 5 to 7. I never asked for anything and I had no inclination it was coming, but anyone looking at my scores (who also knew about the surgeries) would have seen I was struggling and would have made the connection.

    I think he was being smart


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭gypsy79


    Seve OB wrote: »
    I think he was being smart

    I wasnt.....I would want to get back to my handicap asap

    But I dont think having to go out gathering 0.1s till I get back into the 30s is a nice way to go about it


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