Bmw 6 series

hilisa

Been looking at taking the dive into v8 territory as lifes too short
and I like my cars too much.
Even if its not long term ownership I need to get this out of my system,
Have driven a 645 and loved the power and the noise, but think the 650
is the way to go.
Will more than likely bring one in from the UK.
Was going to hold off another year or so and get a 635d or 335d but
just cant escape the want for the v8.
Will be looking at 05 or 06 circa 100,000 miles, obviously with fsh
and preferably work done e.g: oil leaks, gaskets, valve stem seals (If
needed)
How do the 650i hold up in relation to the 645 (Valve stem seals, etc)
I know these are pretty big bills when they do go.
All comments or advice really appreciate.

Thanks

Idbatterim

few things, I have driven a 645 and 630. The 650 here usually go for substantially more than a 645, the put out pretty much the same hp per litre. I doubt you would save anything bringing them in from the uk, actually I would say there a decent bit cheaper here... the 4.8L 650 is worth a very slight premium in my opinion over the 645, the premium you pay for them will be significant!


keep an eye on bmwdrivernet... and have the car checked by a bmw specialist prior to purchase, that would be my advice... oh I would be checking insurance before purchasing one of these too!

that said, I just got quoted an extra E150 a year by my insurance company to go from a 2.5L > a 5.5L... but it is very important to check before buying

hilisa

Insurance is an extra 200 to go from a 2.0 so not too bad at all.
Have a 320si msport for sale so once that goes it will be all systems go.
Your right about the price of 645 bring cheaper here I reckon but a huge selection on auto trader.co.uk compared to here and quite s few 650 also but can't find one 650 for sale in Ireland.
And get this! The vrt for a 650 is €1709.
The vrt for a 645 is €2500.
Is it had to get a car in uk pre checked by a Bmw specialist I wonder! I know the rac will call out and do s full check and test drive, but need someone that knows what to look out for on a car like this,

Idbatterim

THe revenue vrt website is just a guide afaik. They give u actual cost when you present it here. 650 will her cost more new and have higher omsp... you are right about the lack of 650 here and even the 645 have majorly dried up. I presume people holding onto them, rather than giving them away and being done on deprecation again going to some tractor engine far inferior BMW that will actually cost more to own than a beauty of a v8

hilisa

Yeah think your right about people holding onto them. Can't imagine the price will drop much more on them. I would keep it myself too if they did.
Not saying your wrong but from what I could find online, the price the vrt quote you can be taken to the office.
Surely they can't add on over a grand to the quote they give online provided all the details are correct. Would be very p****d off if that happened me at the vrt office after buying it.
Drove a 645 last week and loved the power and sound, high miles though and non sport seats. But 165000 miles turned me off.
Not a full history either.
The reason for the 650 I suppose is because they are suppose to be that bit more reliable than the 4.4 and that extra bit of power and torque can't hurt.

Cee-Jay-Cee

Idbatterim wrote: »

THe revenue vrt website is just a guide afaik. They give u actual cost when you present it here. 650 will her cost more new and have higher omsp... you are right about the lack of 650 here and even the 645 have majorly dried up. I presume people holding onto them, rather than giving them away and being done on deprecation again going to some tractor engine far inferior BMW that will actually cost more to own than a beauty of a v8

If you get a statistical code and have the exact model selected then that is the price of the VRT. It may vary by a few euros but nothing drastic.

There are several factors taken into account when calculating VRT and depreciation is one of them. A 650i is likely to depreciate faster than a 645i as it costs more to buy and won't hold its value here as well as the 645i hence the VRT being less than a 650i.

Gravelly

If you are buying one of these get it checked out (and I mean a full nose-to-tail, up on a ramp, thorough workout) by someone who knows the model. I know of cases of cars brought in from the UK that were given a full RAC and "BMW specialist" check but still had issues. The RAC guy is unlikely to do anything more than an MOT type check, and won't have brand-specialist knowledge, while many "BMW specialists" might only see a couple of these a year. If you can get someone who works on a lot of them to give it a check, it makes for a lot more peace of mind. Good luck, they are a beautiful machine if you get a right one.

hilisa

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

If you get a statistical code and have the exact model selected then that is the price of the VRT. It may vary by a few euros but nothing drastic.

There are several factors taken into account when calculating VRT and depreciation is one of them. A 650i is likely to depreciate faster than a 645i as it costs more to buy and won't hold its value here as well as the 645i hence the VRT being less than a 650i.

Did some more checking and that sounds right. The quote is correct provide it the correct model is entered.
There is however approx 3-400 euro difference between the the different versions e.g: 650i 2dr sport
650i 2dr sport

Don't know why ad both entries are identical but handy to check all variations so there's no nasty surprises.
Itching for the 650 now.
My current average mpg is 23mpg so reckon I won't see s huge difference in fuel cost either. Don't do much mileage anyway

Idbatterim

if its a v8 you are after and are not hell bent on the 6 series, I took this yoke for a spin, beautiful machine with 2 year warranty...

http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/mercedes-benz/s-class/used-2006-mercedes-benz-s-class-s-westmeath-fpa-7983719878032523417

Gravelly

Idbatterim wrote: »

if its a v8 you are after and are not hell bent on the 6 series, I took this yoke for a spin, beautiful machine with 2 year warranty...

http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/mercedes-benz/s-class/used-2006-mercedes-benz-s-class-s-westmeath-fpa-7983719878032523417

Nice.

TCP/IP

I had a 650 cabriolet for two years super car to drive and really comfortable.
If you can afford the running costs get the 650 over the 645 any-day had some traffic light grand prix with many a 630/645 and the 650 wiped the floor with them.
Why not look for an M6 I am always on the lookout for a nice M6.
Just make sure what ever you get has a full inspection and also make sure its fully loaded.

hilisa

TCP/IP wrote: »

I had a 650 cabriolet for two years super car to drive and really comfortable.
If you can afford the running costs get the 650 over the 645 any-day had some traffic light grand prix with many a 630/645 and the 650 wiped the floor with them.
Why not look for an M6 I am always on the lookout for a nice M6.
Just make sure what ever you get has a full inspection and also make sure its fully loaded.

M6 is way out of my budget and running costs are much too high for me too,
I'm aware of the fact that a 4 figure bill could be lurking around the corner with a big problem. Sat steering or valve seals etc.
Can afford fuel and tax and services and normal maintenance stuff like that no prob buy would like to avoid some if the bigger issues you hear about.
As mentioned a few posts up I need to get someone who knows these cars to have a look.
Do you know if all 650i s have the active steering or is it just an optional extra on some models. Just something huge to go wrong in my opinion

hilisa

Idbatterim wrote: »

if its a v8 you are after and are not hell bent on the 6 series, I took this yoke for a spin, beautiful machine with 2 year warranty...

http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/mercedes-benz/s-class/used-2006-mercedes-benz-s-class-s-westmeath-fpa-7983719878032523417

Nice car but really after the 6 series

TCP/IP

Active steering was an option and not standard.

hilisa

Gravelly wrote: »

If you are buying one of these get it checked out (and I mean a full nose-to-tail, up on a ramp, thorough workout) by someone who knows the model. I know of cases of cars brought in from the UK that were given a full RAC and "BMW specialist" check but still had issues. The RAC guy is unlikely to do anything more than an MOT type check, and won't have brand-specialist knowledge, while many "BMW specialists" might only see a couple of these a year. If you can get someone who works on a lot of them to give it a check, it makes for a lot more peace of mind. Good luck, they are a beautiful machine if you get a right one.

Agree fully with you on the above. Just be a bit of a mission to find someone over in the uk or could pay someone to come over I suppose if I know someone.

Gravelly

hilisa wrote: »

Agree fully with you on the above. Just be a bit of a mission to find someone over in the uk or could pay someone to come over I suppose if I know someone.

If you go on to one of the UK BMW forums, there's a good chance they could get you in touch with the right person in the right area.

hilisa

Gravelly wrote: »

If you go on to one of the UK BMW forums, there's a good chance they could get you in touch with the right person in the right area.

Yeah I might register in piston heads as it seems pretty good and see how I go when I'm in s position to actually buy.

hilisa

There's actually s nice one here but would need a good check and its private sale too by the looks of it!!

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-search?advertising-location=at_cars&body-type=Coupe&fuel-type=Petrol&make=BMW&minimum-badge-engine-size=4.0&model=6%20SERIES&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&page=1&postcode=n43ha&year-from=2003&year-to=2013

Gravelly

hilisa wrote: »

Yeah I might register in piston heads as it seems pretty good and see how I go when I'm in s position to actually buy.

Pistonheads is good, though something like Bimmerforums might be more specialised - pistonheads has a lot of "internet experts" on it.

hilisa

Gravelly wrote: »

Pistonheads is good, though something like Bimmerforums might be more specialised - pistonheads has a lot of "internet experts" on it.

Yeah have been on that searching before too, might sign up to both anyway.