Which SUV?

Tardis

Hi I'm looking into getting a new car in January. With one child in tow I'm considering going SUV, in particular the Kadjar. Anyone any opinions or suggestions? Great boot size is a must. Preferably nothing over a 1.5 diesel or petrol.

Any help would be appreciated

colm_mcm

Qashqai?

Why limit to 1.5?

Tardis

colm_mcm wrote: »

Qashqai?

Why limit to 1.5?

Keep the insurance down

Lantus

Most SUV variants don't have boots to write home about. Most are in the small size and the qashqai is one such. Great car, but small boot.

Ateca is on the bigger size. Or look at a 7 seat varient and put the back seats down, expensive though.

colm_mcm

Tardis wrote: »

Keep the insurance down

Have you priced insurance on different models?

shane b

Id agree with lantus on the SUV boot size. The Kadjar not bad for an suv at 472 litres of boot size but the Skoda Octavia has 590 litres and the Ford Mondeo offers 550 litres. The thing people like with suvs are the driver position is higher than in a car.

grogi

shane b wrote: »

Id agree with lantus on the SUV boot size. The Kadjar not bad for an suv at 472 litres of boot size but the Skoda Octavia has 590 litres and the Ford Mondeo offers 550 litres. The thing people like with suvs are the driver position is higher than in a car.

It is not for high driving position - it has been norm in MPVs for years.
It is not for big boot - MPV or estate will offer much more of that.
Not about people carrying capabilities either - beaten by a MPV with similar footprint (especially in headroom department).
Not about handling...
Not about economy - aerodynamics of Blarney Castle definitely does not help.
Nor about maintenance costs - big tires are more expensive...

What is left is styling (big wheels yeeah!) and the promise of unrestrained lifestyle. Those beach, cliffs, countryside and Hollywood boulevard trips we always wanted to do, but never could in a boring hatchback. Now in the brand new almost Range Rover we can

I guess that now when everyone has an SUV, we will all meet at those remote places...

grogi

Tardis wrote: »

Hi I'm looking into getting a new car in January. With one child in tow I'm considering going SUV, in particular the Kadjar. Anyone any opinions or suggestions? Great boot size is a must. Preferably nothing over a 1.5 diesel or petrol.

Any help would be appreciated

Kodiaq 1.4 tsi
Tiguan 1.4 tsi
Ateca 1.4 tsi
5008 1.5 BlueHDI
5008 1.2 PureTech
Kadjar 1.5 dCi

Irish Gunner

I was in the same boat as you...well Car...(ill get my coat)

We test drove the Peugeot 3008, Renault Kadjar, Hyundai Tucson,Mazda, Kia sportage and the Seat Ateca. At the end of it they all seemed the same and its the small things that mattered and what extras dealer could give us, along with trade in. We also tried looking north so consider that also.

We brought the pram with us so we could check out boot size and in the end we went with the Ateca good deal on it and great boot size. There is a new Skoda out soon Karoq looks good but we could not wait.

Check out the post I started below

Family SUV

Tardis

shane b wrote: »

Id agree with lantus on the SUV boot size. The Kadjar not bad for an suv at 472 litres of boot size but the Skoda Octavia has 590 litres and the Ford Mondeo offers 550 litres. The thing people like with suvs are the driver position is higher than in a car.

Have to be honest I am considering the Octavia due to such good price on pcp.

Tardis

Irish Gunner wrote: »

I was in the same boat as you...well Car...(ill get my coat)

We test drove the Peugeot 3008, Renault Kadjar, Hyundai Tucson,Mazda, Kia sportage and the Seat Ateca. At the end of it they all seemed the same and its the small things that mattered and what extras dealer could give us, along with trade in. We also tried looking north so consider that also.

We brought the pram with us so we could check out boot size and in the end we went with the Ateca good deal on it and great boot size. There is a new Skoda out soon Karoq looks good but we could not wait.

Check out the post I started below

Family SUV

I am being pulled towards the Kadjar. What was your opinion on it? Like we only have a baby we're not a family of 5 or anything

Cupra280

The Peugeot BlueHDi is 1.6ltr diesel.
The 5008 (will only be available for 181 delivery) is a 7 seat, so there is a premium over the 3008.

The 3008 has a 510 litre boot.

The SEAT Ateca 1.4 TSi is a lovely smooth engine.

The Octavia boot is absolutely huge.

Irish Gunner

Tardis wrote: »

I am being pulled towards the Kadjar. What was your opinion on it? Like we only have a baby we're not a family of 5 or anything

It was nice to drive and big but the spec we wanted had a panoramic roof and although possible good for a driver in warmer climates did not appeal to us. However everything else was good with it.

We only have the one baby so safety was also an option and read all reviews over on carwow and honest john websites. Also when putting the car seat in not much bending down etc thus the reason for SUV rather than an Skoda

Tardis

Irish Gunner wrote: »

It was nice to drive and big but the spec we wanted had a panoramic roof and although possible good for a driver in warmer climates did not appeal to us. However everything else was good with it.

We only have the one baby so safety was also an option and read all reviews over on carwow and honest john websites. Also when putting the car seat in not much bending down etc thus the reason for SUV rather than an Skoda

And with the car seat in the kadjar was there much room for the person in front? In both our cars you need to be a dwarf to ride shotgun if the car seat is in

Irish Gunner

Tardis wrote: »

And with the car seat in the kadjar was there much room for the person in front? In both our cars you need to be a dwarf to ride shotgun if the car seat is in

We are both tall so sat in the back and seemed ok. Big lump in the back so could be a cramp with 3.With the Ateca good headroom and same lump in the back but spacey enough

I would just try everything and see what you want and what you can afford

SmithySeller

Irish Gunner wrote: »

It was nice to drive and big but the spec we wanted had a panoramic roof and although possible good for a driver in warmer climates did not appeal to us.

I honestly find it a waste. Also, quite the contrary, the Panoramic Roof turns the car into a bloody green house. You could grow tomato's in ours if left parked with the roof blind left open. Driving on a Sunny day you need to ramp up the AC, ramp down the AC maybe , I dunno, but you get the gist :P

Stallingrad

Having just been through this we ended up being frustrated by the whole SUV thing. We looked the market leaders and they are all all so compromised, even the much lauded Tucson has a boot which really isn't up the the job for a family. Ditto all the others, really little better than a jacked up Golf. An estate is so much more practical, and most family saloons even have bigger boots.

grogi

Stallingrad wrote: »

Having just been through this we ended up being frustrated by the whole SUV thing. We looked the market leaders and they are all all so compromised, even the much lauded Tucson has a boot which really isn't up the the job for a family. Ditto all the others, really little better than a jacked up Golf. An estate is so much more practical, and most family saloons even have bigger boots.

The most practical cars are MPV. They combine big boot with high roof line and loads of space for passengers. When you have small kids and need to secure them in their seats, it is really hard to underplay the height of the car. They suffer in the style and handling areas - but the likes of Espace, Scenic or S-Max show that it does not need to be the case...

As you said the SUV are a bit more of a compromise. The shape of the body and big wheels influence how much spece is inside. But you still height and how easier it is to put the kids in.

Estate has bigger boot, but will be lower. Now, when sitting is the new smoking and our backs aren't that healthy, that might be an issue for some...

Stallingrad

We have a 7 seat Grand Scenic, and have discovered that is a VERY hard car to replace, very few cars come close in terms of practicality and useful space. It is such a versatile, family car. We finally went for a Superb Hatch, we are losing two seats, but little else in terms of usable space, but it was a very difficult decision and still feels like a leap of faith. I hope it works.

Tardis

SmithySeller wrote: »

I honestly find it a waste. Also, quite the contrary, the Panoramic Roof turns the car into a bloody green house. You could grow tomato's in ours if left parked with the roof blind left open. Driving on a Sunny day you need to ramp up the AC, ramp down the AC maybe , I dunno, but you get the gist :P

Ah the spec I'd be getting wouldn't come with a sun roof ha

AMKC

Stallingrad wrote: »

We have a 7 seat Grand Scenic, and have discovered that is a VERY hard car to replace, very few cars come close in terms of practicality and useful space. It is such a versatile, family car. We finally went for a Superb Hatch, we are losing two seats, but little else in terms of usable space, but it was a very difficult decision and still feels like a leap of faith. I hope it works.

Why did ye not just buy a new Grand Scenic? I think the new Scenic and Grand Scenic are great looking cars.

AMKC

Tardis wrote: »

Hi I'm looking into getting a new car in January. With one child in tow I'm considering going SUV, in particular the Kadjar. Anyone any opinions or suggestions? Great boot size is a must. Preferably nothing over a 1.5 diesel or petrol.

Any help would be appreciated

Toyota C-HR while you still can have a funky cool looking car. Your next car can be something more practical

If herself does not like the C-HR do

The Renault Scenic

and Mazda CX-5 are two other very nice options.

Stallingrad

The new one has jumped up quite a bit in price, there won't be any deals around on it for quite a while. Superb was good deal cheaper.

EPAndlee

Tardis wrote: »

Hi I'm looking into getting a new car in January. With one child in tow I'm considering going SUV, in particular the Kadjar. Anyone any opinions or suggestions? Great boot size is a must. Preferably nothing over a 1.5 diesel or petrol.

Any help would be appreciated

I can give you some insight into the Kadjar. There is 4 models Expression, Dynamique Nav, Dynamique S Nav and Signature.

-Expression is basic. These can come in 1.2 petrol

-Dynamique Nav is the most popular I find. 17" Alloys, cruise control mostly the usual extras you'd expect to find

-Dynamique S Nav has some nice spec like 19" diamond cut Alloys, front and rear parking sensors,half leather seats.

-Signature is top spec. Has extras like a panoramic roof, leather seats, bose sound system. They can also come with self park and rear view camera.

They come in 1.5 110bhp and 1.6 130bhp. The 1.6 is the one I'd have. The 1.6 feels alot nicer to drive. Haven't seen any trouble from the 1.6 but the 1.5 is very reliable I've hardly seen any engine trouble from them. Manual and Auto transmission. Personally I find the Auto very unpleasant to drive.

They are a bit small inside. I feel if you had four adults in it, it would feel a tad cramped. Personally I'd expect the interior to have a couple of creeks and noises after a while.

Now for the issues with.

The 19" Alloys with probably need front tyres every service which is 20,000kms. 90% of the ones I've with 19's needed front tyres.

Nearly all the 2016 and some 2017 Kadjars I've seen needed the rear calipers changed at the first service along with rear disc and pads. Some with as little as 13,000km. This is under warranty tho.

The media system can give trouble but it only needs an updated.

The rubber stripe on the top of the windscreen can come off but only needs to be stuck down with some sealer.

I wouldn't leave these issues put you off tho. Overall they are a very good Suv. They come in come lovely colours especially Flame Red and Cosmic Blue. They do come with a 5 year warranty or 200,000km. Renault have seriously upped their game in the last few years and are making some extremely reliable and good looking cars.
I hope this helps

Lantus

I'd agree that Renault make some lovely cars but some of the servicing requirements you have listed are shocking! New discs and pads at 13k!!!!!

New tyres..ouch...the missus changed her front tyres once in 3 years and 87k from new.

That would put me right off to be honest. Those things should not fail.

EPAndlee

Lantus wrote: »

I'd agree that Renault make some lovely cars but some of the servicing requirements you have listed are shocking! New discs and pads at 13k!!!!!

New tyres..ouch...the missus changed her front tyres once in 3 years and 87k from new.

That would put me right off to be honest. Those things should not fail.

Infairness it's the calipers causing the pad and discs to wear but once the calipers are changed it seems to solve the problem. As for the tyres I think it's the continental tyres they come with are pretty fast wearing from my experience.