Concrete Wall - Honeycomb?

FeelTheBern

Have lads putting up slatted shed here at moment. Poured concrete walls this week. Saw it for first time with shutters off today. At several pillars there are what I think are called honeycombed sections running down along side the pillar where it looks like liquid part of concrete has not covered stones. Six to nine inches wide in places. Looks awful.

Don't know much about this kind of thing. What should I be looking to have done to remedy this? Thanks

patsy_mccabe

You need to get some kind of vibration in there to work down the concrete. Normally builders using a 'poker'. This vibrates when it is shoved down into the concrete.
Also seen guys use a lump hammer and hit the outside of the shuttering especially near the bottom or places where you might expect a problem.

Bullocks

FeelTheBern wrote: »

Have lads putting up slatted shed here at moment. Poured concrete walls this week. Saw it for first time with shutters off today. At several pillars there are what I think are called honeycombed sections running down along side the pillar where it looks like liquid part of concrete has not covered stones. Six to nine inches wide in places. Looks awful.

Don't know much about this kind of thing. What should I be looking to have done to remedy this? Thanks

You could patch it with plaster but you will always see it as a patch
If you weren't happy with patching you could plaster the walls but it's not a cost you would expect to pay when shuttering already
The lads pouring the concrete didn't give it enough of the poker so I'm sure they expect to be pulled up on it now so don't be afraid to say it to them

FeelTheBern

Bullocks wrote: »

You could patch it with plaster but you will always see it as a patch
If you weren't happy with patching you could plaster the walls but it's not a cost you would expect to pay when shuttering already
The lads pouring the concrete didn't give it enough of the poker so I'm sure they expect to be pulled up on it now so don't be afraid to say it to them

Thanks. I'm spending enough on this thing to have it done right so will be saying it to them alright.

Other than patching over with plaster what can I try to get them to do to fix it? Can they dig it out and replace? Worst piece of it is right at front of shed so will be seeing the bloody thing every day.

FeelTheBern

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

You need to get some kind of vibration in there to work down the concrete. Normally builders using a 'poker'. This vibrates when it is shoved down into the concrete.
Also seen guys use a lump hammer and hit the outside of the shuttering especially near the bottom or places where you might expect a problem.

Thanks Patsy. If I had tried to do it myself and made a balls of it wouldn't be any surprise but these guys full time at the job so should be doing it right.

Bullocks

FeelTheBern wrote: »

Thanks. I'm spending enough on this thing to have it done right so will be saying it to them alright.

Other than patching over with plaster what can I try to get them to do to fix it? Can they dig it out and replace? Worst piece of it is right at front of shed so will be seeing the bloody thing every day.

They could break it out and replace aswell . Especially if it's at the door of a shed you would think they would make sure and poke it enough . I don't think many good concrete crews would leave it like that .
Any pictures ?

kerry cow

You could make them take that section down and re do .
Plaster would be a mess for ever more .
At end of day you must get what you ordered and paying for .
Otherwise leave it up and don't pay for that section , at least each time you look at it you will know it cost you nothing .

Cavanjack

I feel your pain. You say at several pillars, so to repair them the only option is to plaster the whole lot or knock them down. I'd imagine the walls would have to be roughed up to get the plaster to stick to them. I wouldn't be parting with any money till it's fixed up.
Nothing worse than spending big money on concrete and a lad coming along and rubbing his ar&e to it. Had plenty of them here over the years.

FeelTheBern

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FeelTheBern

Hope those photos work. Both ends of one section which runs between two pillars. Other bits to varying extents running down along other pillars. Not all shutters off yet so dont know what's inside them. Will be passing this side of shed every day and first bit of shed anyone coming into yard will see too.

valtra2

That don't look too bad in fairness

famagusta

That's not bad at all, them lads will rub that up and it'll be the finest. Nothing to worry about

sea12

valtra2 wrote: »

That don't look too bad in fairness

Yep thought they would look worse. Don't look that bad but you will be the one looking at it every day. Don't get yourself worked up too much over it. Often done it myself. Other people don't notice near as much as u think but at the same time let the crew know your not happy and get something knocked off the bill.

Just curious. Is there no steel sticking up from the foundation to tie into the wall?

mickdw

Ya that will rub up if they know what they are doing. Ive seen worse on finished concrete work inside buildings that came up perfect after abit of careful tidying.

Bullocks

As the others said it's not perfect but not the worst either and can dickied up to look a good bit better

dohc turbo2

sea12 wrote: »

Yep thought they would look worse. Don't look that bad but you will be the one looking at it every day. Don't get yourself worked up too much over it. Often done it myself. Other people don't notice near as much as u think but at the same time let the crew know your not happy and get something knocked off the bill.

Just curious. Is there no steel sticking up from the foundation to tie into the wall?

What's left there is a door opening I think he mentioned

Victor

What does your engineer say?

While you may have spotted some honeycombing, what about the honeycombing that hasn't been spotted?

kerry cow

Not bad at all .they will put it right with a bit of limestone dust and cement .
No bother .
Once it gets covered in siht ,it won't be seen again for a long time .

foxy farmer

If you got a concrete mix with very little fines youd be in far worse trouble. Looks like the fat has drained due to a poor seal around the steel.

Who2

There's a mix that will sort that out fairly well. they use it on precast stairs and such. il try to find out the name of it next week. i say give the lad a chance to remedy it. if he cant then get on about payment.

patsy_mccabe

OP, that looks fine. More annoying than anything else, especially if you like to have things right.

Cavanjack

Yeah there is stuff in a bucket the slat manufacturer's use to repair chips in slats. It's like cement and you just mix with water.

FeelTheBern

Thanks everyone for replies.

Good to hear it doesn't seem too bad. Not all shutters off yet so hope nothing worse anyway. The look of it annoying me as much as anything else - particularly when they did some of the sections fine. Have it in my head that I'll be looking at this for next 30 years annoying me cos would like things to be right but suppose life moves on!!

Your man over it is a decent fellow, and I don't think he'd like rough looking work himself. I couldn't get him on phone today but hopefully we'll sort it out next week.

Just on one question there - that's an opening for door alright on left so no rods up from foundation.

Wildsurfer

Get them to patch it up as others have recommended and then paint it with a good quality floor paint to cover up the repair job