NEW SLURRY TANKERS

jjjjjjjk

Looking at buying a new slurry tank between 2000 -2200 gal. Have been asked do I want a fully recessed what does this mean??. I got a quote of a Fleming 2000gal for 12,500 inc vat. Is this the cheapest or what do the new abbey or hispec or other makes retail for. Hope to get your views. Thanks

shootermcgee

Rossmore tankers have a good reputation of being indestructible around here

simx

jjjjjjjk wrote: »

Looking at buying a new slurry tank between 2000 -2200 gal. Have been asked do I want a fully recessed what does this mean??. I got a quote of a Fleming 2000gal for 12,500 inc vat. Is this the cheapest or what do the new abbey or hispec or other makes retail for. Hope to get your views. Thanks

New abbey be circa 14500/15k

Buford T. Justice XIX

jjjjjjjk wrote: »

Looking at buying a new slurry tank between 2000 -2200 gal. Have been asked do I want a fully recessed what does this mean??. I got a quote of a Fleming 2000gal for 12,500 inc vat. Is this the cheapest or what do the new abbey or hispec or other makes retail for. Hope to get your views. Thanks

An ordinary tank has the wheels on the outside of the body

And a recessed tank has the wheels further in , taking a bit of the body of the tank to keep their width small enough to go on the roads and gaps in farms.

nhg

We're looking at buying a new 1350 gallon tanker (had a very very old 1100 major who had decided it's had enough - why do these things happen at the worst time ever - did some amount of work in its day though). Our tractor is a Case JX75. Won't have to go out on the road at all as outfarm is too far away to bother drawing such a small amount. The home farm land is fairly flat.

Looking at a Hi-Spec SA-S (€8,750), waiting for a price for it galvanised (€2200) and also for an Ag-quip Dribble Bar (€14,500) but really only want to buy the tanker on its own...

Got a price for a Connor at €12500 + €1400 for galvanised. Waiting on a price from Rossmore, Redrock & Cross..

Read somewhere that the Tams II is available for Slurry Tanker only provided the tank is galvanised, does anyone know anything about that. I emailed the Tams Dept yesterday but awaiting a reply.

Has anyone any experience of the Dribble Bar (only considering due to grant) & best Slurry Tanker...

simx

nhg wrote: »

We're looking at buying a new 1350 gallon tanker (had a very very old 1100 major who had decided it's had enough - why do these things happen at the worst time ever - did some amount of work in its day though). Our tractor is a Case JX75. Won't have to go out on the road at all as outfarm is too far away to bother drawing such a small amount. The home farm land is fairly flat.

Looking at a Hi-Spec SA-S (€8750), waiting for a price for it galvanised and also for an Ag-quip Dribble Bar...

Got a price for a Connor at €12500 + €1400 for galvanised. Waiting on a price from Rossmore, Redrock & Cross..

Read somewhere that the Tams II is available for Slurry Tanker only provided the tank is galvanised, does anyone know anything about that. I emailed the Tams Dept yesterday but awaiting a reply.

Has anyone any experience of the Dribble Bar (only considering due to grant) & best Slurry Tanker...

Tank don't have to be galvanised for tams

nhg

Would a 75 HP tractor pull a 1600 Hi-Spec Slurry Tanker comfortably - mostly flat ground, just slight slope, no road travel. Tank not recessed on 550/60 22.5 tyres, with downward splash plate only (Only €600 dearer than a 1350 tanker)

TIA

White Clover

nhg wrote: »

Would a 75 HP tractor pull a 1600 Hi-Spec Slurry Tanker comfortably - mostly flat ground, just slight slope, no road travel. Tank not recessed on 550/60 22.5 tyres, with downward splash plate only (Only €600 dearer than a 1350 tanker)

TIA

It would be a big ask of that tractor. If the tank was running on 28.1x26 or bigger it would make it easier pulled.

yewtree

Contactor uses trailing shoe here great job in spring.
sold our tanker here last year, as most of it was been done by contractor struggled to get 5.5 k for a fresh 1600 abbey tanker.
Most of the contractors around here have major, they seem a very good machine.

emaherx

nhg wrote: »

Would a 75 HP tractor pull a 1600 Hi-Spec Slurry Tanker comfortably - mostly flat ground, just slight slope, no road travel. Tank not recessed on 550/60 22.5 tyres, with downward splash plate only (Only €600 dearer than a 1350 tanker)

TIA

Personally I think the 1350 is a little on the big side for a 75hp tractor. I hope your tractor is fitted with trailer brakes too.

Gman1987

We used to pull a 2400 gallon tanker behind a 85hp Renault!!! She was under pressure but never got bet with it.

Damo810

Pulled a 2300 belvac with a 6130, under fair pressure but she worked it, wouldn't want much hills though 😂

Snowfire

Ger1987 wrote: »

We used to pull a 2400 gallon tanker behind a 85hp Renault!!! She was under pressure but never got bet with it.

Ever try pulling it full..?

maidhc

nhg wrote: »

Would a 75 HP tractor pull a 1600 Hi-Spec Slurry Tanker comfortably - mostly flat ground, just slight slope, no road travel. Tank not recessed on 550/60 22.5 tyres, with downward splash plate only (Only €600 dearer than a 1350 tanker)

TIA

I had a 1600 on a Zetor 6340 which was about that HP. It pulled it pretty well actually. Funnily enough that Zetor was a demon to pull; but forget stopping.

J.O. Farmer

maidhc wrote: »

I had a 1600 on a Zetor 6340 which was about that HP. It pulled it pretty well actually. Funnily enough that Zetor was a demon to pull; but forget stopping.

Even without the tanker

White Clover

maidhc wrote: »

I had a 1600 on a Zetor 6340 which was about that HP. It pulled it pretty well actually. Funnily enough that Zetor was a demon to pull; but forget stopping.

Hard to beat the Zetor!

Zr105

nhg wrote: »

Would a 75 HP tractor pull a 1600 Hi-Spec Slurry Tanker comfortably - mostly flat ground, just slight slope, no road travel. Tank not recessed on 550/60 22.5 tyres, with downward splash plate only (Only €600 dearer than a 1350 tanker)

TIA

On flat ground probably be fairly ok, be sluggish but there’s no need to race around anyways. 100 here has pulled a 2600 major with little complaint.

Gman1987

Snowfire wrote: »

Ever try pulling it full..?

Ah sure that would only make sense!!!:D:D:D

Grueller

Pull 1650 with 90hp here. Flat ground and nearly no road work. Does the finest.

larthehar

I seen a lad heading down the field with a 2600 gal tanker behind a 188.. Absolute madness.. seem to be spreading adjoining to the yard..

Injuryprone

With the new derogation rules coming in, I am a bit surprised that there isn't more talk about new low emission spreading equipment. Given the lead in time for the grant, is it already too late to get set up for June 16 2018.

I usually get contractor to do the slurry in the spring in 2 splits and also after the first cut if available, when he'd have a sizable ammount to do. I then tip away myself for the rest of the year on paddocks after taking bales and in the run up the the oct 15 deadline so it's the bit that I'd be doing that would need to have the low emission spreading.

Or are people thinking that the dept might turn a blind eye in the first year of the new regs?

nhg

As far as I can see the TamsII LESS only applies to the big lads once again... The smallest Slurry Tanker (including LESS attachment) which qualifies for the grant is a 2600 gallon slurry tanker...

I tired to apply for the grant on Thursday night & the smallest tanker that would allow the application to validate was 2600 - I emailed the department yesterday morning & will update ye once I hear back from them.

Limestone Cowboy

nhg wrote: »

As far as I can see the TamsII LESS only applies to the big lads once again... The smallest Slurry Tanker (including LESS attachment) which qualifies for the grant is a 2600 gallon slurry tanker...

Are you sure about that, a friend got a 2000 gallon through it last year.

simx

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Are you sure about that, a friend got a 2000 gallon through it last year.

I got a 2000 gallon through it anyway

nhg

The minimum size that the applications system will accept is 2600 Litres.
Regards

Above is the reply that I got today from tams@agriculture.gov.ie

Say my name

At a meeting I was at a teagasc speaker expected there not to be much uptake on the tams from farmers for spreaders based on the above.

I got slurry spread recently by a contractor with two 3000 gallon tankers drawing to the field gate and a hydraulic arm coming off the tankers onto a coupler thing and the slurry was going out by pipe to a tractor spreading in the field.
I thought it was the bee's knees.
The guys with the tankers never had to leave their seat.
Zero damage done by the spreader tractor.
It would make you wonder why you'd ever put a tanker on a field.

If there's tams on the umbilical. That's the way to go.

simx

nhg wrote: »

The minimum size that the applications system will accept is 2600 Litres.
Regards

Above is the reply that I got today from tams@agriculture.gov.ie

So once again the little guy gets left behind....

2600 LITRES?

nhg

simx wrote: »

2600 LITRES?

Well spotted, I was so annoyed with the reply that I didn't even notice that.

So am I correct in my thinking now that the application is in LITRES & not gallons like I assumed?

Zr105

nhg wrote: »

The minimum size that the applications system will accept is 2600 Litres.
Regards

Above is the reply that I got today from tams@agriculture.gov.ie

So once again the little guy gets left behind....

I think you may be mixing things up a bit here, it’s a minimum of 2600 LITRES which is a tiny tanker. It’s only 600gallons.

A 1300 gallon tanker is 5900 odd litres
A 1600Gallon tanker is 7200 odd litres.

It is a bit stupid that they’ve put it in litres when the majority of tanks in Ireland are rated by there gallon capacity

Say my name

If anyone is able to download the list of eligible items and open it and clear this up it would be great.
I can't do it myself as it won't open on the phone and my laptop is on the blink.

Here's the link.
https://www.agriculture.gov.ie/farmerschemespayments/tams/lowemissionslurryspreadingequipmentscheme/

(That much I can do on the phone).

Aravo

I wonder what the Dept. would say if when they arrive to check things out they notice your tanker has a rain gun ☔

nhg

Zr105 wrote: »

I think you may be mixing things up a bit here, it’s a minimum of 2600 LITRES which is a tiny tanker. It’s only 600gallons.

A 1300 gallon tanker is 5900 odd litres
A 1600Gallon tanker is 7200 odd litres.

It is a bit stupid that they’ve put it in litres when the majority of tanks in Ireland are rated by there gallon capacity

Well they managed to confuse & get me annoyed anyway....

Application now submitted - yes, it does say Litres on the application form but not anywhere in the 24 page T&C's

Thanks for sorting this out for me...

Zr105

nhg wrote: »

Well they managed to confuse & get me annoyed anyway....

Application now submitted - yes, it does say Litres on the application form but not anywhere in the 24 page T&C's

Thanks for sorting this out for me...

To be honest I actually logged in and checked it in the application thing to be sure before posting, I hadn’t looked at the t&cs Doc but I couldn’t see how they could restrict it to be over 2600gallons as that would be rediculous when the tams isn’t really supposed to be open to contractors and it’s not as if all farmers want that size of a tank

FarmerDougal

Anyone have a rough price on a 2000 gal recessed abbey or major tanker with dribble bar?

Never wrestle with pigs

FarmerDougal wrote: »

Anyone have a rough price on a 2000 gal recessed abbey or major tanker with dribble bar?

25k

simx

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

25k

More like 30k and maybe a bit with it

Muckit

You'd have a shed up for it!!

Aska

Priced a new Slurry Kat & NC last week,

Both have Sept at the earliest delivery dates due to demand and the SK have their "cheaper" Panterra range which would have to be careful if you consider one as they wont take an after market dribble bar etc. (Or if they will there is a serious amount of modification required)

All with the usual basic extras and 30.5 tyres

The SK Panterra was
2250-€17250 (Vat incl.)
2500-€17250 (Vat incl.)

Standard SK tanker was
2250-€17850 (Vat incl.)
2500-€18500 (Vat incl.)

& the NC was

2250-€19500 (vat incl)