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4FM

  • 07-08-2017 12:57pm
    #1
    MikeyTaylor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭


    Will 4FM still be on air this time next year?

    Will we still have 4FM this time next year? 14 votes

    Yes
    0% 0 votes
    No
    64% 9 votes
    Who knows?
    35% 5 votes


Comments

  • #2
    School Socks
    Closed Accounts Posts: 65 ✭✭School Socks


    Yes, I'd say it will run the course of it's licence until February 2019, It has bigger debts than txfm had and with it's owners concentrating so much on Nova, it's unlikely they'll reapply for the licence imo.


  • #3
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,633 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Are things really that bad??


  • #4
    School Socks
    Closed Accounts Posts: 65 ✭✭School Socks


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Are things really that bad??

    Like TXFM, it will simply come down to whither or not the station has any possibility of making money over the next 10 years.


  • #5
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    School Socks wrote: »
    Like TXFM, it will simply come down to whither or not the station has any possibility of making money over the next 10 years.

    How did things end up this bad at 4 Fm? Are there any other stations heading the same way..


  • #6
    Dia1988
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,252 ✭✭✭Dia1988


    Deleted User wrote: »
    How did things end up this bad at 4 Fm? Are there any other stations heading the same way..

    I blame Niall Boylan with his made up hysterical stories and fake callers!


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  • #7
    Max Headroom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭Max Headroom


    Dia1988 wrote: »
    I blame Niall Boylan with his made up hysterical stories and fake callers!


    Its a trait it seems..Pat Courtenay, raise your hand...;)


  • #8
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,633 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Dia1988 wrote: »
    I blame Niall Boylan with his made up hysterical stories and fake callers!

    He seems to manage to get listeners though....

    Some callers seem to be the only ones that ever call though.

    It seems a trend across all these types of phone in shows though.

    I find they are extremely similar and the very odd time there might be something interesting.


  • #9
    vince
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 549 ✭✭✭vince


    I listened lots for first few years but very little now. They have a big cork following yet its very dublin focused. Replace it with somthing else ie nova or 8radio.


  • #10
    School Socks
    Closed Accounts Posts: 65 ✭✭School Socks


    vince wrote: »
    I listened lots for first few years but very little now. They have a big cork following yet its very dublin focused. Replace it with somthing else ie nova or 8radio.

    Yet they have almost no listener's in Dublin according to the jnlr


  • #11
    MikeyTaylor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭MikeyTaylor


    School Socks wrote: »
    Yet they have almost no listener's in Dublin according to the jnlr

    How many exactly?


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  • #12
    KReid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭KReid


    School Socks wrote: »
    Yes, I'd say it will run the course of it's licence until February 2019, It has bigger debts than txfm had and with it's owners concentrating so much on Nova, it's unlikely they'll reapply for the licence imo.

    Is it actually in debt or just not making money?

    Be sad to see it go under in favour of Nova, they both have a fair bit to offer different markets, although doesnt seem to ever do well in the ratings in Dublin.


  • #13
    Declan A Walsh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,503 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    Maybe something radical needs to be done here like concentrating on Galway, Cork and Limerick. The problem now is that the licence includes Dublin which is too competitive - Q102, Sunshine 106.8 and Nova are all aiming for a similar target audience. If somehow the license was amended to be a non-Dublin regional station, it would have a better chance at this stage. I'm not sure if that can be done though.
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  • #14
    School Socks
    Closed Accounts Posts: 65 ✭✭School Socks


    some details here on the state of their finances https://www.duedil.com/company/ie/439209/choice-broadcasting-limited


  • #15
    marno21
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,620 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    If it was able to concentrate on being a music driven station instead of having Boylan on for 6 hours a day sticking out like a sore thumb it would have a bigger chance of succeeding.

    There are places for talk shows. An over 45s music driven service is not one of them.


  • #16
    MikeyTaylor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭MikeyTaylor


    marno21 wrote: »
    If it was able to concentrate on being a music driven station instead of having Boylan on for 6 hours a day sticking out like a sore thumb it would have a bigger chance of succeeding.

    There are places for talk shows. An over 45s music driven service is not one of them.

    Are you sure it's not over 35s?


  • #17
    School Socks
    Closed Accounts Posts: 65 ✭✭School Socks


    Over 45s https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2008/0128/98827-radio/


  • #18
    MikeyTaylor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭MikeyTaylor


    School Socks wrote: »
    Over 45s https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2008/0128/98827-radio/

    Well I've heard quite a few modern pop songs on the station lately. And surely a show like 90s at Night would be more aimed at 20/30 somethings?


  • #19
    School Socks
    Closed Accounts Posts: 65 ✭✭School Socks


    MikeyTaylor wrote: »
    Well I've heard quite a few modern pop songs on the station lately. And surely a show like 90s at Night would be more aimed at 20/30 somethings?

    Of course but they have completely charged the original format of the station and of course the bai gave them green light.


  • #20
    marno21
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,620 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    MikeyTaylor wrote: »
    Well I've heard quite a few modern pop songs on the station lately. And surely a show like 90s at Night would be more aimed at 20/30 somethings?

    Older people listen to modern songs too. I'd imagine what you heard was Adele/Ed Sheeran etc?

    Someone who was 18 in 1990 is 45 now. I think the 90s at Night show is a positive move from an evolutionary point of view. People who are now coming into the category 4FM are aiming for would be far more in tune with the output of 90s at Night than 60s at Night


  • #21
    School Socks
    Closed Accounts Posts: 65 ✭✭School Socks


    marno21 wrote: »
    Older people listen to modern songs too. I'd imagine what you heard was Adele/Ed Sheeran etc?

    Someone who was 18 in 1990 is 45 now. I think the 90s at Night show is a positive move from an evolutionary point of view. People who are now coming into the category 4FM are aiming for would be far more in tune with the output of 90s at Night than 60s at Night

    That argument has always annoyed me and it explains why 4fm have no listeners in Dublin, if someone over 50 wants to listen to Ed Sheeran, a bit of 90s music and a failed comedian on breakfast then they could listen to almost every other music station on the FM dial.


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  • #22
    MikeyTaylor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭MikeyTaylor


    School Socks wrote: »
    That argument has always annoyed me and it explains why 4fm have no listeners in Dublin, if someone over 50 wants to listen to Ed Sheeran, a bit of 90s music and a failed comedian on breakfast then they could listen to almost every other music station on the FM dial.

    PJ Gallagher was very successful and popular in the mid-2000s.


  • #23
    Max Headroom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭Max Headroom


    School Socks wrote: »
    That argument has always annoyed me and it explains why 4fm have no listeners in Dublin, if someone over 50 wants to listen to Ed Sheeran, a bit of 90s music and a failed comedian on breakfast then they could listen to almost every other music station on the FM dial.


    You've just described Nova there...wont be long before they play Ed...talented guy and better than some of the shoite they play imo...:D:D:D:D


  • #24
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    I only found 4FM recently and I quite like it. Still wouldn't listen to it in the mornings because I really don't like morning comedy. Nova in the morning and 4FM in the evening seems to work for me but I always had an older taste in music anyway.


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