Tracking down orginal home owner

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I live in a neighborhood in Blackrock. There is an abandoned house and I would like to buy it. I tried tracking down the home owner in the registry of deeds and the land register but with no success. I'm assuming the house was partitioned from the adjoining house at one time but was never registered.I suspect the original owner died and never willed it to anybody.
Is there any other way I can find out?

lifeandtimes

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I live in a neighborhood in Blackrock. There is an abandoned house and I would like to buy it. I tried tracking down the home owner in the registry of deeds and the land register but with no success. I'm assuming the house was partitioned from the adjoining house at one time but was never registered.I suspect the original owner died and never willed it to anybody.
Is there any other way I can find out?

Contact the local authority and they will investigate for you. I think that have to check up on derilicked houses

Pat Mustard

lifeandtimes wrote: »

Contact the local authority and they will investigate for you. I think that have to check up on derilicked houses

The relevant local authority may be able to give the rated occupier details but it won't investigate ownership unless it has its own reasons to do so.

If it is a derelict house, the local authority might make enquiries with a view to acquiring the property or otherwise under the Derelict Sites Act but that is unlikely to assist the OP.

I would suggest taking up details from the valuation office search and taking matters from there.

godtabh

which blackrock?

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NUTLEY BOY

I don't know if there are any data protection issues but you could try and check the electoral register at the library to see if you can establish any name(s) for the address. I did something similar recently. I was told that there was a data protection issue but I got what I wanted anyway. It is not definitive information but you are only gathering scraps at this early stage.

A second step would be door to door enquiries. Ask around neighbouring houses or any shops if there are some close by.

A third long shot possibility is to write a letter to the "owner" and post it through the letter box. If anybody is actually collecting post it might get somewhere.

You checked with the Land Registry. A few years ago I was checking a property in Dublin. The Land Registry had no information on the property but they suggested that I cross check with their mapping section . I went in to an office on Nassau Street where they located maps for the exact road and address. Their records showed no transactions or information as it happened. It cost a nominal fee to peruse their maps with their assistance. A lot has probably changed in the last few years but it would be worth checking with them to see if they still do that.

coylemj

NUTLEY BOY wrote: »

I don't know if there are any data protection issues but you could try and check the electoral register at the library to see if you can establish any name(s) for the address. I did something similar recently. I was told that there was a data protection issue ...

You should have claimed to live at that address and wanted to see if you were on the register. Or go to a different library.

Either way, whoever told you that was a busybody, they had no business asking you what address you wanted to check.

NUTLEY BOY

coylemj wrote: »

You should have claimed to live at that address and wanted to see if you were on the register. Or go to a different library.

Either way, whoever told you that was a busybody, they had no business asking you what address you wanted to check.

Good thinking

Boardnashea

Have a look at the local council planning dept and see if any old planning applications/decisions/documents

lawred2

lifeandtimes wrote: »

Contact the local authority and they will investigate for you. I think that have to check up on derilicked houses

not sure why but the ballsed up spelling of that reminded me of Zoolander

Spanish Eyes

coylemj wrote: »

You should have claimed to live at that address and wanted to see if you were on the register. Or go to a different library.

Either way, whoever told you that was a busybody, they had no business asking you what address you wanted to check.

Is it true that one cannot check the register generally (hard copy) anymore? I thought it was used by advertisers/mailers and so on, and you could opt out. But I could be wrong about that aspect.

Anyway "check the register.ie" is useless. It will not allow me to enter the Eircode and the error message keeps showing. Very frustrating. That's why I'm thinking Hard Copy.....

Anyway, from what I recall (when the online thing worked!) was that the name of the occupier was required to validate. Sure that's what I was trying to find out!

So does anyone know if I can check the register in the Library in general, i.e. just scanning my road for example to see who lives there! Nosey me....

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coylemj

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Is it true that one cannot check the register generally (hard copy) anymore? I thought it was used by advertisers/mailers and so on, and you could opt out. But I could be wrong about that aspect.

The copy that advertisers get access to is an electronic copy which they pay for and from which people can opt out so it's a subset of the general register. It's officially known as the 'edited register'.

It's about 3 years now but last time I asked in my local library, they handed me the hardcopy version in a binder and I could have spent the whole day studying it. That was the full register because I was listed and I have opted out of the edited register.

configure my router

Thanks everyone. I went to the local authority and the house isn't on the abandoned houses list. So I will check the electoral register and the valuation office next.
The guy in the local authority told me that I should check with the chief solicitors office.

nuac

Surprised that there are any abandoned houses in Blackrock.


Have you posted here before?

Senna

Wouldn't the neighbours be the simplest step, especially on a good evening when people are out in the garden, stop for a chat, oh and by the way, do you know......

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nuac

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If Planning Applications were lodged these would have to be by the owner or somebody with the owner's consent

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AndrewJRenko

Look up the old Thom's Directories for the address and see what you can find;

https://www.google.ie/search?q=thom%27s+directory+1980

NUTLEY BOY

nuac wrote: »

Surprised that there are any abandoned houses in Blackrock. SNIP

You would be surprised !

There is an abandoned detached house on the N11 southbound on your left just after Newtownpark Avenue. It is readily identifiable by the masses of graffiti and the empty site beside it.

I am looking at a similar property on a major road in Mount Merrion. That house looks like it is well on it's way to becoming derelict.

hullaballoo

There are quite a few abandoned/derelict houses in South County Dublin these days as a result of so many people losing their shirts. They may be NAMA-owned or bank-owned or there may be any number of other reasons they are untended.

goulders

Contact any law search companies, pay the fee, and wait for info to arrive.

They have years of experience doing this