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Can the guards take action against these cars?

  • 03-08-2017 2:38pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,063 ✭✭✭✭


    Hey Folks,

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    Just wondering if you can give some advice in reference to the cars in these images. They've been 'abandoned' now for some months and it seems nothing is being done about it. I was wondering if I called the Guards stating that they are a hazard and parents with prams are forced into the road, would that encourage the Guards to fine the owner/have them removed? Alternatively stating the same reason are the council required to remove them? They are parked one behind the other.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    Hey Folks,

    424084.jpg

    424085.jpg

    Just wondering if you can give some advice in reference to the cars in these images. They've been 'abandoned' now for some months and it seems nothing is being done about it. I was wondering if I called the Guards stating that they are a hazard and parents with prams are forced into the road, would that encourage the Guards to fine the owner/have them removed? Alternatively stating the same reason are the council required to remove them? They are parked one behind the other.

    Call your local council. They'll trace the owner and give them a time to remove them or face scrappage.

    You really don't have much luck with parked cars ..do you? :D


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If they had no number plates they'd be lifted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,578 ✭✭✭paddylonglegs


    Call your local council. They'll trace the owner and give them a time to remove them or face scrappage.

    You really don't have much luck with parked cars ..do you? :D

    Called guards before after car was left on road for 10 days. It was causing minor delays. Got it shifted the next day


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,710 ✭✭✭D3V!L


    My estate is full of them. My neighbour even has one outside his house to stop others parking there.

    The tax, NCT and insurance are up since the start of the year and it's on 4 flat tyres. Is there anything I can do about it ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,063 ✭✭✭✭Kintarō Hattori


    Call your local council. They'll trace the owner and give them a time to remove them or face scrappage.

    You really don't have much luck with parked cars ..do you? :D

    Ha, thankfully this isn't by me but a little further down the road. However the missus takes our little one walking that way hence why I'm asking.
    Augeo wrote: »
    If they had no number plates they'd be lifted.

    Can't be doing that I'm afraid. Loads of homes have CCTV.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Ashbx


    Im not sure how diligent they are but you can report them here:

    http://www.dublincity.ie/main-menu-your-council/isupport


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,063 ✭✭✭✭Kintarō Hattori


    Ashbx wrote: »
    Im not sure how diligent they are but you can report them here:

    http://www.dublincity.ie/main-menu-your-council/isupport

    I just called the council who say it's the responsibility of the Guards. I'll call the Guards who'll say it's the responsibility of the council.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    I just called the council who say it's the responsibility of the Guards. I'll call the Guards who'll say it's the responsibility of the council.

    If there is no reg plates: Council
    If there are reg plates: Guards

    Thats the way I remember it been :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,481 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    I'd be talking to my local councilor and bring the matter to the attention of the local news media if that goes on deaf ears. Get a reporter down to take photos and write an article in the local newspaper about it. You would be surprised what a bit of publicity like that can do to motivate the relevant authorities into action. Emphasize that the BMW with the broken rear windscreen should be seen as a safety issue with kids playing in a housing estate. Not to mind the fact that they are parked illegally on footpaths blocking wheelchair access too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,684 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    D3V!L wrote: »
    My estate is full of them. My neighbour even has one outside his house to stop others parking there.

    The tax, NCT and insurance are up since the start of the year and it's on 4 flat tyres. Is there anything I can do about it ?

    use your fire and brimstone and set it alight


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  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    bazz26 wrote: »
    ................ Not to mind the fact that they are parked illegally on footpaths blocking wheelchair access too.

    Maybe potentially hindering fire truck access too.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    Augeo wrote: »
    Maybe potentially hindering fire truck access too.

    And ambulances.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    I saw an obviously abandoned car being towed away earlier this week. It had no number plates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,525 ✭✭✭ION08


    Question regarding the whole "no number plates" spiel which I always hear in these type of scenarios

    What if the registration number is visible on the discs inside the window - will the council still tow it on the basis of no physical number plates?


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ION08 wrote: »
    ................ will the council still tow it on the basis of no physical number plates?

    Yup, strangely enough.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    We used to get people coming into the motor tax office fairly frequently about getting letters from the council of parked cars.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,760 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    Ha, thankfully this isn't by me but a little further down the road. However the missus takes our little one walking that way hence why I'm asking.



    Can't be doing that I'm afraid. Loads of homes have CCTV.

    HAs the estate been taken in charge by the local authority? If not then it's private property and neither the gardai nor the local authority have any responsibility or entitlement to deal with the vehicles. If they have been taken in charge and the tax is out for 2 months or more then they can be lifted and you should plague the barracks or the LA office until it happens. They outsource it so the only responsibility not he gardai or the LA is to call up the outsource provider, i.e.it's not wasting their time or diverting their resources.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Ashbx


    Marcusm wrote: »
    HAs the estate been taken in charge by the local authority? If not then it's private property and neither the gardai nor the local authority have any responsibility or entitlement to deal with the vehicles. If they have been taken in charge and the tax is out for 2 months or more then they can be lifted and you should plague the barracks or the LA office until it happens. They outsource it so the only responsibility not he gardai or the LA is to call up the outsource provider, i.e.it's not wasting their time or diverting their resources.

    I thought if the car was untaxed (regardless of how long its been expired) and was on a public road (i.e. not in a driveway even if it is deemed a private estate) then its illegally parked and can be removed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,710 ✭✭✭D3V!L


    lawred2 wrote: »
    use your fire and brimstone and set it alight

    With the whole Catholic church fiasco in recent years people have stopped believing in me so my powers are dwindling.

    I may just call DCC and see if they can lift it :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭alexonhisown


    Ashbx wrote: »
    I thought if the car was untaxed (regardless of how long its been expired) and was on a public road (i.e. not in a driveway even if it is deemed a private estate) then its illegally parked and can be removed.

    I am also interested in this. Lots of cars dumped in my estate, so far only the main street has been taken in charge by CC.

    I think it is someone who is "buying the cars for cash" but has nowhere to keep them all. They just appear overnight, with flat tyres, so they are not driven here, they are transported and dumped.

    They have no tax, ins or nct and are taking up parking spaces.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    I have two such vehicles on my suburban estate road, both are small, cheap and quietly rotting away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,760 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    Ashbx wrote: »
    I thought if the car was untaxed (regardless of how long its been expired) and was on a public road (i.e. not in a driveway even if it is deemed a private estate) then its illegally parked and can be removed.
    I am also interested in this. Lots of cars dumped in my estate, so far only the main street has been taken in charge by CC.

    I think it is someone who is "buying the cars for cash" but has nowhere to keep them all. They just appear overnight, with flat tyres, so they are not driven here, they are transported and dumped.

    They have no tax, ins or nct and are taking up parking spaces.

    An untaxed car can be fined from the first day but it cannot be seized until the tax is more than 2 months out of date. An untaxed car with an identifiable owner is the responsibility for f the Gardai. An unidentifiable car (no plates) is regarded as abandoned and the responsibility of the lady cal authority - it's rubbish effectively. Cars left on private property result in a civil dispute between the owner of the car and of the land.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,428 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    The Gardai don't care if a car is untaxed. They told me they'd have to "catch them in a checkpoint" which is bollocks. There's two abandoned outside my apartment taking valuable parking spaces. One is UK reg, covered in webs, flat tyre and hasn't been touched in over a year. Another car next to it with no legal documents since 2016. Possibly declared off the road but who knows.

    Someone came knocking on everyone's door asking to buy them but nobody knew who owned it. The fecker doesn't even live here and it hasn't been touched. It's frustrating coming home after work not having anywhere to park outside my own apartment. I had to leave the car at my ma's house down the road because there's double/single yellows around the complex.

    I'll have to contact the council to see if it's even private property.

    Hopefully you'll have more luck and not just be told there's nothing to be done or for them to point fingers at who has to do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,199 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    "it's a disgrace Joe"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,760 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    DaveyDave wrote: »
    The Gardai don't care if a car is untaxed. They told me they'd have to "catch them in a checkpoint" which is bollocks. There's two abandoned outside my apartment taking valuable parking spaces. One is UK reg, covered in webs, flat tyre and hasn't been touched in over a year. Another car next to it with no legal documents since 2016. Possibly declared off the road but who knows.

    Someone came knocking on everyone's door asking to buy them but nobody knew who owned it. The fecker doesn't even live here and it hasn't been touched. It's frustrating coming home after work not having anywhere to park outside my own apartment. I had to leave the car at my ma's house down the road because there's double/single yellows around the complex.

    I'll have to contact the council to see if it's even private property.

    Hopefully you'll have more luck and not just be told there's nothing to be done or for them to point fingers at who has to do it.

    If they're private parking spaces at your apartment block, the gardai have no authority over them even if they are untaxed. Neither does the local authority. That is a matter for the OMC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,833 ✭✭✭phill106


    Children have no culpability in relation to legal matters. Children can be surprisingly dexterous with a screwdriver to remove two screws....
    Kids games eh, they do the funniest things.


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