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Pension question

  • 02-08-2017 9:11pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 259 ✭✭


    Anyone know what the state pension age was in the Irish Free State in 1930?

    And is there any of finding out if there was a pension application made in that year be a family member?


Comments

  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,706 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    It was 70 when first introduced. At some stage in the 1970s, it was dropped to 66.
    That's a good question.

    P10 of this document gives the following summary

    The Irish state pension – or social welfare pension –
    comprises the first pillar of the Irish pensions system. The
    state pension, then called the old age pension, dates from
    the Old Age Pensions Act of 1908, when the British
    Chancellor of the Exchequer, David Lloyd-George,
    introduced a means-tested, tax-financed state pension for
    those aged over 70 years (Murray, 1980). In 1924, the new
    Free State government cut the old age pension and tightened
    some of the conditionality attached to receiving the pension
    (McCashin, 2005: 95; O’Gr, 151-152). The pension cut
    was reversed in 1928, and from 1932 the means test became
    less onerous – indeed the Local Government Department in
    practice relaxed the means-test, much to the chagrin of the
    Department of Finance - with the removal of the ‘benefit and
    privilege’ clause and the Poor Relief disqualification.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,706 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    What are you hoping to find out from it? Maybe it's available on other documentation.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,943 ✭✭✭tabbey


    The pension age in Ireland (Republic) was 70 until 1973, when it was reduced, a year at a time over four years to 66 by 1977. This was part of the 14 point programme agreed by Fine Gael  & Labour, and implemented by the government led by Liam Cosgrave and Brendan Corish.
    In the UK, including Northern Ireland, the pension age had been lowered long previously. After the war, Churchill made the pension available to women at 60, as a token of appreciation for their industrial and war work during 1939-45.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,943 ✭✭✭tabbey


    pummice wrote: »
     is there any of finding out if there was a pension application made in that year be a family member?
    National Archives of Ireland have records of the Department of Social Welfare, it's predecessors and successors, but what they contain, I do not know.
    Personally I think such documents should be preserved, even with restrictions on access, but somehow I suspect that might be over optimistic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 259 ✭✭pummice


    Thanks folks for your replies


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