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UK citizenship eligibility

  • 02-08-2017 3:38pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,616 ✭✭✭✭


    Not sure if this is the right forum, but a search seems to show that previous passport questions found their way here.

    I'm Irish born and bred. However I married a Derry woman (God help me), and I think my mother was born in the North.

    Is there any way I can qualify for UK or joint citizenship?

    The reason is that I work in the North and might move back there later in life when I retire.

    With the Brexit uncertainty flying around I'm wondering if having a UK passport might make life easier both in the near future as a cross border worker, and in the long term in terms of retiring in the north.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,622 ✭✭✭✭coylemj



    I'd be inclined to check the official UK Govt. website rather than rely on a website created and run by a self-styled 'British nationality expert'....

    https://www.gov.uk/browse/citizenship/citizenship

    OP, whatever about citizens of EU countries, I hardly think that there's the remotest chance of the UK kicking people out of NI because they have RoI passports! The Ireland Act 1949 predated the UK's entry into the EU and basically says that people from the 26 counties are not considered foreigners in the UK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,998 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    DrPhilG wrote: »
    Not sure if this is the right forum, but a search seems to show that previous passport questions found their way here.

    I'm Irish born and bred. However I married a Derry woman (God help me), and I think my mother was born in the North.

    Is there any way I can qualify for UK or joint citizenship?

    The reason is that I work in the North and might move back there later in life when I retire.

    With the Brexit uncertainty flying around I'm wondering if having a UK passport might make life easier both in the near future as a cross border worker, and in the long term in terms of retiring in the north.
    As others have said, you're probably going to be fine with just Irish citizenship.

    However, if your mother was born in Northern Ireland and you were born after 1 January 1983 you're already a British Citizen. If you were born before that date you're not a British Citizen, but you're entitled to register as one. So I think find your mother's birth certificate and take it from there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,616 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Thanks, I'm pre 1983.

    Not 100% sure if my mother was born in the North, I may be remembering wrongly.

    She passed away years ago and my dad isn't too well at the minute so he might not be able to tell me either.

    As you all say it's probably not an issue but no harm in checking it out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭seagull


    You can only get UK citizenship through marriage if you're resident in the UK.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,616 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    seagull wrote: »
    You can only get UK citizenship through marriage if you're resident in the UK.

    Yeah I thought that from the website.

    Have done some digging, my mother was not born in the North. But one grandmother was from Tyrone.

    I might contact Jack Charlton, he's an expert in this field, lol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,998 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    Your grandmother having been born in Tyrone is no help unless, on the basis of that, your mother became a British citizen by registration before you were born, which I presume did not happen.

    You're either going to have to (a) steal the identity of a British citizen who was born about the same time as you but died in infancy, or (b) bank on Irish citizens retaining their long-standing rights under UK law not to be treated as foreigners. I'd think (b) was a pretty safe bet myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,616 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Great idea.

    Option A it is!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,638 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Peregrinus wrote: »
    Your grandmother having been born in Tyrone is no help unless, on the basis of that, your mother became a British citizen by registration before you were born, which I presume did not happen.

    You're either going to have to (a) steal the identity of a British citizen who was born about the same time as you but died in infancy, or (b) bank on Irish citizens retaining their long-standing rights under UK law not to be treated as foreigners. I'd think (b) was a pretty safe bet myself.


    That old trick, as seen in the original version of Day of the Jackal, doesnt work anymore. They now check the death register when issuing new passports.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,998 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    That old trick, as seen in the original version of Day of the Jackal, doesnt work anymore. They now check the death register when issuing new passports.
    Piece of cake! Pick someone who died abroad.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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