Car tax

sniperman

hi i my son bought a corsa last november,it has not been driven since,it was in storage until he passed his test,which he has now done,will he have to pay tax for the months it was in storage or what ill he have to do now.thanks

Iseedeadpixels

Was it declared off the road when he parked it up?

Kevin!

sniperman wrote: »

hi i my son bought a corsa last november,it has not been driven since,it was in storage until he passed his test,which he has now done,will he have to pay tax for the months it was in storage or what ill he have to do now.thanks

If he didn't declare it off the road beforehand, he will be liable for the back tax BUT if the car was to change ownership to another family member the tax would only be due from the date of new ownership

sniperman

Iseedeadpixels wrote: »

Was it declared off the road when he parked it up?

no.

Iseedeadpixels

sniperman wrote: »

no.

As the above poster said change the ownership to avoid any tax.

filbert the fox

Kevin! wrote: »

If he didn't declare it off the road beforehand, he will be liable for the back tax BUT if the car was to change ownership to another family member the tax would only be due from the date of new ownership

Ahem, surely Boards rules are being flouted by this hint.

Even though the car tax situation is fostering a culture of sharp practice, in reality the owner of a vehicle not declared off the road is liable for the full amount.

Atlantic Dawn

filbert the fox wrote: »

Ahem, surely Boards rules are being flouted by this hint.

Even though the car tax situation is fostering a culture of sharp practice, in reality the owner of a vehicle not declared off the road is liable for the full amount.

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

coylemj

filbert the fox wrote: »

Ahem, surely Boards rules are being flouted by this hint.

Back seat modding?

filbert the fox wrote: »

in reality the owner of a vehicle not declared off the road is liable for the full amount.

He/she is only 'liable' for the back tax if they attempt to buy a new tax disc. If they sell it on, there is no liability and the new owner is only obliged to tax it from the first day of the month in which the change of ownership happened.

sniperman

thanks all for the info,i now know what to do.

SmartinMartin

filbert the fox wrote: »

Ahem, surely Boards rules are being flouted by this hint.

Even though the car tax situation is fostering a culture of sharp practice, in reality the owner of a vehicle not declared off the road is liable for the full amount.

It's not a secret. I was advised to do exactly this by staff in the motor tax office.

Carpentry

what about the insurance if the car changes owners or its/car/ not in his own name ?

punisher5112

Carpentry wrote: »

what about the insurance if the car changes owners or its/car/ not in his own name ?

Change it back.... Sell.... Re buy back....

frash

Didn't someone on here sell his car to his mother's dog recently for similar reasons.

goz83

Oh....and another 2 owners will be on the logbook by the time it's all switched back over. I had someone trying to tell me that there was only one owner of a vehicle that had 7 owners listed. Might have been true, but the paperwork said otherwise and I walked. Extra owners on the book can devalue the car.

Skatedude

SmartinMartin wrote: »

It's not a secret. I was advised to do exactly this by staff in the motor tax office.

same here when i wanted to declare my car off the road due to damage and tax was a few days out. Advised by staff at local motor tax office to just re-register to a friend and register it back to me when it was back on the road.

TallGlass

goz83 wrote: »

Oh....and another 2 owners will be on the logbook by the time it's all switched back over. I had someone trying to tell me that there was only one owner of a vehicle that had 7 owners listed. Might have been true, but the paperwork said otherwise and I walked. Extra owners on the book can devalue the car.

I have had cars with 10/12 owners on it, never any issue once it's looked after. It could have 1 owner from new and drove the ****é out of it and done nothing with it service wise. Be careful using that logic.

rocky

goz83 wrote: »

Oh....and another 2 owners will be on the logbook by the time it's all switched back over. I had someone trying to tell me that there was only one owner of a vehicle that had 7 owners listed. Might have been true, but the paperwork said otherwise and I walked. Extra owners on the book can devalue the car.

Only one owner added if you change into wife's name, normally for insurance purposes doesn't matter who's on the logbook, you or the wife.

uck51js9zml2yt

sniperman wrote: »

no.

Yes, he will. 10% of the annual cost per month.

The other option is he sells it to you and then buys it back to wipe any arrears off.

punisher5112

I cringe when I see one lady owner....

I do hope it wasn't the one I seen driving up the n11 in 2nd gear doing 60km/h ;-)

Buffman

filbert the fox wrote: »

Ahem, surely Boards rules are being flouted by this hint.

This information is freely available from official sources.

http://www.housing.gov.ie/local-government/motor-tax/vehicle-road/qa

Q&A - Declaring a Vehicle Off The Road

Q3. Can I do it after tax has expired?
A3. No, it must be done in advance. If arrears in motor tax are due, these must be paid in full and motor tax paid for a minimum of 3 months before a declaration of non-use may be made. However, see Q14 below in respect of newly purchased vehicles (new or second hand).
...................
Q14. I've just bought a vehicle - how can I make a declaration that I intend to keep it off the road for a while?
A14. If you have just bought a new vehicle or just acquired a second hand one and do not intend to use it immediately, you will have twenty one days from the date of purchase (as specified in the registration document or the notification of transfer of vehicle ownership) to furnish a declaration of non-use. In that case, the declaration will commence from the first day of the month in which the sale takes place, or the first day of the month of registration in the case of new vehicles.
Make sure you notify the seller that you are intending to declare the vehicle off the road and that you need him or her to ensure that the change of ownership is notified to the National Vehicle and Driver File as soon as possible.

filbert the fox

Buffman wrote: »

This information is freely available from official sources.

http://www.housing.gov.ie/local-government/motor-tax/vehicle-road/qa

"If arrears in motor tax are due, these must be paid in full"

Thank you for confirming the contents of my original post.

Skatedude

filbert the fox wrote: »

"If arrears in motor tax are due, these must be paid in full"

Thank you for confirming the contents of my original post.

Yes, arrears must be paid if due, nobody is debating that, And if you change owners, as advised by motor taxation staff, then arrears must still be paid if due, but there won't be any due until the current month runs out after you changed ownership, at that point 1 month arrears would be due etc.

Buffman

Skatedude wrote: »

And if you change owners, as advised by motor taxation staff, then arrears must still be paid if due, but there won't be any due until the current month runs out after you changed ownership, at that point 1 month arrears would be due etc.

Just on that, as per Q14 above, you can also have up to 20 days the following month (21 days after date of purchase) to tax/declare of the road, depending on exact date of purchase. For example, if I purchased a car on 31st July, once the change of ownership is processed, I can declare it off the road for all of July at any time until 20th August, and then tax from start of August or leave it off the road.

The fact that the system forces you to make an non-use declaration covering a period before you owned the vehicle is not an ideal situation.

filbert the fox wrote: »

"If arrears in motor tax are due, these must be paid in full"

Thank you for confirming the contents of my original post.

filbert the fox wrote: »

in reality the owner of a vehicle not declared off the road is liable for the full amount.

Your welcome, what you said is true, if the owner wishes to apply for motor tax. The key word in what you said is owner. It is impossible for anybody to pay arrears or motor tax on a vehicle they don't own. There is no legal requirement for an owner to either have a vehicle taxed or declared off the road or motor tax arrears cleared before a transfer of ownership can be processed.

Buffman wrote: »

Originally Posted by filbert the fox
Ahem, surely Boards rules are being flouted by this hint.

This information is freely available from official sources.

http://www.housing.gov.ie/local-government/motor-tax/vehicle-road/qa

The point I was originally trying to make, is that the information regarding change of ownership and motor tax is freely available from official sources, therefore it is unreasonable to take umbrage with people pointing it out here on Boards.