M50 air pollution

Jesh1

Hi All, I am thinking of purchasing a property in Dublin. Aprox.150 meters from the M50. Should i be concerned about air pollution? I have a couple of young kids who would be outdoors most of the time.

Seth Brundle

If it were me, I'd be more conscious of the noise pollution from the M50. I wouldn't say there's much air pollution.

Del2005

kbannon wrote: »

If it were me, I'd be more conscious of the noise pollution from the M50. I wouldn't say there's much air pollution.

Thousands of cold diesel engines sitting pumping out NOx and fine soot particles for hours every day. Yes there's not much pollution from the biggest car park in the country.

BTW noise is also a pollution and while you can get used to anything I was stopped at the petrol station in Kilmacanogue a while ago and was shocked at how noise the traffic was making, only noticed how bad it was when there was no traffic.

Seth Brundle

Del2005 wrote: »

Thousands of cold diesel engines sitting pumping out NOx and fine soot particles for hours every day. Yes there's not much pollution from the biggest car park in the country.

The EPA air quality monitoring site at the M3/M50 interchange would dispute your cynicism...
http://www.epa.ie/air/quality/data/blc/




(I dont know if there are any other sites - that one came first on a Google search)

Atlantic Dawn

With diesel emissions I wouldn't let them outside at all.

washman3

You have a bigger chance of getting killed by a kick from a donkey than 'air-pollution' caused by motor engines.
Its a scam perpetrated by a bunch of headbangers with a vested interest.

Victor

washman3 wrote: »

You have a bigger chance of getting killed by a kick from a donkey than 'air-pollution' caused by motor engines.
Its a scam perpetrated by a bunch of headbangers with a vested interest.

Vested interests like people with asthma?

About 1,200 people die from air pollution in Ireland every year.

The Ging and I

Noise will be the real issue.

Jesh1

I am not too concerned about the noise, i have been at the house a few times and there is faint tyre noise alright. I have spoken to locals and they said noise is not an issue. My real concern is air pollution. We generally have good air quality in Ireland due to our climate.

Del2005

kbannon wrote: »

The EPA air quality monitoring site at the M3/M50 interchange would dispute your cynicism...
http://www.epa.ie/air/quality/data/blc/




(I dont know if there are any other sites - that one came first on a Google search)

While not at a dangerous level it's higher than I'd like to live beside. Don't forget that this is the stuff that kills now not maybe in a few years.

http://www.epa.ie/air/quality/data/cm/pm/#d.en.43501

http://www.epa.ie/air/quality/data/dl/gas/

washman3

Victor wrote: »

Vested interests like people with asthma?

About 1,200 people die from air pollution in Ireland every year.

So by that logic about 25,000 people died from air pollution over the last 20 years, yet I didn't know a single one of them.
But I know dozens that died of suicide,smoking and alcohol abuse.
Pull the other one mate....

Michael D Not Higgins

washman3 wrote: »

So by that logic about 25,000 people died from air pollution over the last 20 years, yet I didn't know a single one of them.
But I know dozens that died of suicide,smoking and alcohol abuse.
Pull the other one mate....

I think when these kinds of statistics come up it's an equivalent measure. No one dies exclusively of air pollution but it may shorten everyone's lives by a measurable amount which is then calculated as an equivalent death rate per year.

Estrellita

Del2005 wrote: »

Don't forget that this is the stuff that kills now not maybe in a few years.

Spot on. Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it won't affect your health, it's the longer term I'd be worried about. I have children too and this would be a worry for me.

With regards to the noise, is it any worse when you're sitting in your garden? When finer weather does actually happen you might like to use your garden to sit out in, eat etc.

Diarmuid

washman3 wrote: »

So by that logic about 25,000 people died from air pollution over the last 20 years, yet I didn't know a single one of them.
But I know dozens that died of suicide,smoking and alcohol abuse.
Pull the other one mate....

We may as well clear up a few other causes of death while on the subject. Can you list out any other diseases of which you don't know anyone who died? Just so we can stop wasting time and money researching them.....

beauf

The UK did studies on the effect of air pollution on schools in congested areas. You'd need to look at those.

If you've ever lived near a lot of traffic you'll see the effect on windows and curtains. I would always choose not to live near that if I have a choice. You don't always have a choice though.

REFLINE1

Noise would drive me crazy ,looked at a few houses near motorways and couldn't do it.

Alun

REFLINE1 wrote: »

Noise would drive me crazy ,looked at a few houses near motorways and couldn't do it.

You get used to it. I lived less than 100m away from the M6 in England for years and just didn't notice it in the end and slept right through. OTOH I had trouble sleeping when on holiday when it was "too quiet"!

REFLINE1

Alun wrote: »

REFLINE1 wrote: »

Noise would drive me crazy ,looked at a few houses near motorways and couldn't do it.

You get used to it. I lived less than 100m away from the M6 in England for years and just didn't notice it in the end and slept right through. OTOH I had trouble sleeping when on holiday when it was "too quiet"!

ya i assume you would eventually, grew up in a rural area so it just really gets to me!

Victor

washman3 wrote: »

So by that logic about 25,000 people died from air pollution over the last 20 years, yet I didn't know a single one of them.
But I know dozens that died of suicide,smoking and alcohol abuse.
Pull the other one mate....

The victims die from asthma, lung cancer and heart diseases and many will be older.