Wall painting finish..

cosmowillie53

I painted a room recently with Johnstone's vinyl matt.
I cleaned,sanded and vacuumed off any dust. I put on a light mist coat and then two coats of the finish colour.
When I rub my hand lightly over the wall it has a kind of furry feeling to it.
It looks absolutely fine.
My question is how do I get a flat smooth finish like you would with paint for a door for example.
Thanks for any ideas

antiskeptic

cosmowillie53 wrote: »

I painted a room recently with Johnstone's vinyl matt.
I cleaned,sanded and vacuumed off any dust. I put on a light mist coat and then two coats of the finish colour.
When I rub my hand lightly over the wall it has a kind of furry feeling to it.
It looks absolutely fine.
My question is how do I get a flat smooth finish like you would with paint for a door for example.
Thanks for any ideas

The roller you use has a big impact. The usual emulsion roller is a fluffy affair and picks up the paint - especially if you don't roll it out enough. A slightly rough, if even texture ensues.

If I want a flat finish, I use a very short pile roller, often used for gloss paints. And then roll the paint out well. The roller doesn't hold anything like as much paint, so you refill far more often than with an emulsion roller, but there you go.

It's too late to do anything now though, unless you're prepared to give the wall a light sanding to take off the peaks of the rough look?

cosmowillie53

Thanks for reply.
I used the roller you get when you buy a new tray..
I agree a bit late for one room but I have five or six to do yet.
Is there any particular type of short pile roller I should get.
Thanks

antiskeptic

cosmowillie53 wrote: »

Thanks for reply.
I used the roller you get when you buy a new tray..

Probably quite fluffy so. You get this orange peel effect when you look close up

I agree a bit late for one room but I have five or six to do yet.
Is there any particular type of short pile roller I should get.
Thanks

I get mine in chadwicks. A crown paint centre would do them too.

http://http://www.partridgeshadleigh.co.uk/hardware/tools/painting-tools/paint-rollers/harris-delta-short-pile-gloss-paint-roller-9-inch-x-1-3-4-in/5000253807062



Consider getting a screw-in extendable pole (and a decent roller frame with a thread to take the pole if you've not got one already). It takes a lot of the effort/time out of it and you can stretch the paint out better, having more leverage. Painting with just a roller is time consuming and very tiring, if doing a large amount of painting.

You can, with a bit of care, get a short pile roller to within an 1 and a half inces of the ceiling (without touching it). I tend to paint in vertical stripes, perhaps a foot and a half wide from ceiling to around waist high, working the paint into neat, even edged strips, rather than paint randomly all over the place. Find whatever a fully loaded (but not overloaded, dripping all over the place) roller will cover and go strip by strip around the room. Then go horizontal strips for the below waist section

Do your ceilings first, if painting ceilings, btw.

ouxbbkqtswdfaw

Hi, while I agree with the excellent advice above, no way should you roll horizontally. Horizontal strokes will be seen when you look at the wall at an angle.

M.T.D

As already stated the fine rollers hold a smaller amount of paint than the fluffy ones, so use two rollers. Coarse fluffy one to get paint on to the wall and then roll out immediately with the fine one, or good quality paintbrush, to get the finish you want.
Helps if you are ambidextrous or have three arms.

fussyonion

9er3captd4l15j wrote: »

Hi, while I agree with the excellent advice above, no way should you roll horizontally. Horizontal strokes will be seen when you look at the wall at an angle.

Not at all. Any painter will tell you you can roll whatever way you like; you won't notice when it's dry.

OP, use a short pile roller but not a lamb's wool one.

cosmowillie53

Thanks for all the help so far...
I'm now on my second room..

This is a fairly large one so taking a bit of time. The wall and ceiling paint felt like sandpaper so I decided I would sand down the lot.. I got everything back to smooth . I cleaned everything down so not a speck of dust before I started painting.
I have already painted the ceiling and all good there.
I put a mist coat on the walls and let dry overnight. There was a slight roughness when dry so I lightly sanded the whole thing again ( I have time on my hands) and all is smooth again.
I am using a good paint and a 9" Purdy roller.( recommended by a painter in the paint shop).
I will be putting on two finish coats .
Q : How do I end up with a fully smooth finish.

Thanks

dok_golf

fussyonion wrote: »

Not at all. Any painter will tell you you can roll whatever way you like; you won't notice when it's dry.

OP, use a short pile roller but not a lamb's wool one.

Provided you roll out any tram lines

dodzy

cosmowillie53 wrote: »

Thanks for all the help so far...
I'm now on my second room..

This is a fairly large one so taking a bit of time. The wall and ceiling paint felt like sandpaper so I decided I would sand down the lot.. I got everything back to smooth . I cleaned everything down so not a speck of dust before I started painting.
I have already painted the ceiling and all good there.
I put a mist coat on the walls and let dry overnight. There was a slight roughness when dry so I lightly sanded the whole thing again ( I have time on my hands) and all is smooth again.
I am using a good paint and a 9" Purdy roller.( recommended by a painter in the paint shop).
I will be putting on two finish coats .
Q : How do I end up with a fully smooth finish.

Thanks

I think you are possibly reaching for the stars here. You will not be getting a 'glass' feel with emulsion and roller. Best I can say is use a good roller (Purdy are pretty much top of the pile (no pun intended)) and colourtrend/farrow & ball paint.

colm_c

Only way to get a super smooth finish is to spray rather than roll, which for most DIYers is not really an option.