Small tractor suggestion

niallf

Hello,
I'm looking for a new (old) tractor that's small enough to scrape out yards, but can haul round bales of silage around the place without the front lifting up!
Does anyone have any suggestions?

blue5000

Ford 4600 would be my suggestion. Not sure about lifting wet fusion bales all day though. I've never seen one with an assistor ram, but if in doubt the ram should fit on a 5600 or 5610 anyway. Your idea of small might be different to everyone else's!

Maybe this? https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagemachinery-for-sale/ford-tractor/15373095

kay 9

Budget? Minimum I'd be thinking is a 2wd 390 with bales anymore. Still be nimble around the yard. The 390 only an example of many options

Sam Kade

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/fiat-780-tractor/15431687
Reasonable price and it should do the job.

kay 9

Sam Kade wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/fiat-780-tractor/15431687
Reasonable price and it should do the job.

Great value. Equally as reliable as any 390 if not more so and a quarter of the price.
Better lift capacity as well.

emaherx

kay 9 wrote: »

Great value. Equally as reliable as any 390 if not more so and a quarter of the price.
Better lift capacity as well.

Yea, 390's still cost far too much to consider as a scrapper tractor! The Fiat looks good value

Bass Reeves

Op what sor of budget have you in mind. Have you an old tractor to trade in sell.

jimini0

I can't seem to link an ad. There is a nice case international 685 for sale in mayo. It looks in great condition for a 1985. €6750

GERMAN ROCKS

emaherx wrote: »

Yea, 390's still cost far too much to consider as a scrapper tractor! The Fiat looks good value

the biggest problem with the Fiat will be Rust. It will rot out much faster than the Mf 390 if not kept in a shed out of the weather.

Sam Kade

GERMAN ROCKS wrote: »

the biggest problem with the Fiat will be Rust. It will rot out much faster than the Mf 390 if not kept in a shed out of the weather.

The 390 cabs suffered the same fate.

emaherx

GERMAN ROCKS wrote: »

the biggest problem with the Fiat will be Rust. It will rot out much faster than the Mf 390 if not kept in a shed out of the weather.

The OP wants a tractor for scraping out yards, what ever they pick is going to rust! 10 grand plus is way too much too much to spend on such a machine.

Farmer_3650

Fiat is a decent tractor for a brilliant price. Would be ideal for you. Be well worth having a look at

Oranage2

I've really purchased 2 oxen with a detachable plow, works wonder and no extra diesel overheads

Username John

Oranage2 wrote: »

I've really purchased 2 oxen with a detachable plow, works wonder and no extra diesel overheads

The plough is detachable? That's a great job...

I only bought an oxen myself last week, but the plough isn't detachable... he actually only has the 5 legs and the plough is where the 6th one should be...
But Harry (we called him Harry) does a fine job for getting the fields ready for the rice and the turnips...

Did you buy yours off the lad in Clifden, with the one-eye and the odd socks? He's a gas man...

Oranage2

Username John wrote: »

Oranage2 wrote: »

I've really purchased 2 oxen with a detachable plow, works wonder and no extra diesel overheads

The plough is detachable? That's a great job...

I only bought an oxen myself last week, but the plough isn't detachable... he actually only has the 5 legs and the plough is where the 6th one should be...
But Harry (we called him Harry) does a fine job for getting the fields ready for the rice and the turnips...

Did you buy yours off the lad in Clifden, with the one-eye and the odd socks? He's a gas man...

No, these were purchased at auction in Europe, none of this cheap riff raff on my farm.

Farmer_3650

Username John wrote: »

The plough is detachable? That's a great job...

I only bought an oxen myself last week, but the plough isn't detachable... he actually only has the 5 legs and the plough is where the 6th one should be...
But Harry (we called him Harry) does a fine job for getting the fields ready for the rice and the turnips...

Did you buy yours off the lad in Clifden, with the one-eye and the odd socks? He's a gas man...

I seen an ad for one on donedeal thought it looked a great job. I might go down at the weekend for a look. I'd say it must be an awful handy yoke to have around the place.

pedigree 6

Oranage2 wrote: »

No, these were purchased at auction in Europe, none of this cheap riff raff on my farm.

Did you not look in the Oxen - dales catalogue first?

selectamatic

David Brown 1390 or even some of the older browns if comfort isn't a priority. Would be my suggestion.

For silage bales all 70ish hp 2wd tractors need to be properly weighted up front to prevent the nose from lifting.

A handy power loader is a great way to achieve this and also very useful for odd jobs, if you've tight sheds it could be hindrance though.

For preventing rust keeping the tractor washed regularly and treating the tinwork will help even the most rust prone tractor stay in good nick for much longer.

Nekarsulm

OP, would you chance an Italian?

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/same-65-explorer/16095760

Base price

Nekarsulm wrote: »

OP, would you chance an Italian?

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/same-65-explorer/16095760

That's a fine looking tractor. Is it only 65hp - with 4wd?

Nekarsulm

That's right Base, 65HP and 4wd.
A chap a few miles away (up on the side of Bruce mountain) has a Same Dorado, that looks even more compact that that one and its 85hp.
He is very impressed with the traction and braking, and it fits in anywhere.

lakill Farm

Nekarsulm wrote: »

OP, would you chance an Italian?

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/same-65-explorer/16095760

stick a few weights out from at €40 a piece and she would go most places for you

Bass Reeves

Nekarsulm wrote: »

OP, would you chance an Italian?

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/same-65-explorer/16095760

Good value but may not be as cheap as you think. Most Nothern tractors are subject to VAT @20% so along with sterling difference, getting it checked out and transport she be standing you between 5.5-6K in the yard.

While a 4WD has advantages a 2wd is more monouverable around yards. My own preference would be for a 2wd in a situation like this.Rust may or may not be an issue depending on the amount of yard scraping and wheater op cleans down tractor after scraping.

Really limited on tractors sub 5-10K as exporters are mopping up the stuff and exporting it. Lots of dealers are just selling this sort of stuff on for export.

Nekarsulm

Hi Bass, the ad. says that there is no VAT on the sales price, but yes, ad 20% to convert to Euro, plus a few hundred for transport.

Bass Reeves

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Hi Bass, the ad. says that there is no VAT on the sales price, but yes, ad 20% to convert to Euro, plus a few hundred for transport.

Worse than that cash sale only no vat is what it says. So I suspect that owner is vat registered but is trying to sell it fwith no reciepy. That again brings the real cost well above 6K

lakill Farm

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Worse than that cash sale only no vat is what it says. So I suspect that owner is vat registered but is trying to sell it fwith no reciepy. That again brings the real cost well above 6K

maybe the owner isn't vat reg but is aware of what a lot of dealers do in the north . advertise the tractor at net vat price and then say 20% vat or Irish vat no.

Bass Reeves

lakill Farm wrote: »

maybe the owner isn't vat reg but is aware of what a lot of dealers do in the north . advertise the tractor at net vat price and then say 20% vat or Irish vat no.

Yes he may be but I am wary about cash sale wording.

lakill Farm

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Yes he may be but I am wary about cash sale wording.

I would take that more that he isn't a dealer and doesn't want trade in