Plumbing cost: how does this estimate compare?

I've been asked to check the quote below to see what other plumbers might say. The entire house is being replumbed along with a few other changes. Would people be able to give feeback on the estimate below? How could money be saved here, or is there anything which should be in it that isn't? Thanks a million.

Supply & Fit the following -

Heating System
1 - New High Efficiency Boiler with 5 year warranty.
12 - New Compact Radiators.
12 - Radiator Valves.
1 - 3 zone kit to split system, Hot water, Downstairs and Upstairs.
1 - All necessary pipe & fittings.
1 - Heating system to be completely Re-piped.Hot & Cold -
1 - 300 litre Unvented Cylinder with Solar Coil.
1 - Pressurisation Kit.
1 - Walrus TQ400 Pump & Fittings.
1 - Water storage tanks in attic.
1 - All necessary re-working of plumbing to suit new Utility/Kitchen layout.
Solar
1 - 20 meter coil of DN16 solar pipe to be brought from Utility to Attic for possible futureuse.
Gas -
1 - Gas pipe to be upgraded for larger requirement.
1 - Kitchen supply for possible future use.
Total: €10,970.00

Additional:

Underfloor Heating-The removal of radiators and inclusion of underfloor piping and fittings cost to be additionalto previous = €600.00

Solar -The System we have priced for is a solar ready system.To go ahead with fully integrated solar system this is our costing.€3,500.00

Supply & Fit -
1 - Ensuite shower tray and trap.
1 - Shower valve.
1 - shower door.
1 - Towel Radiator & valves.
1 - Close coupled WC and seat.
1 - Wash hand basin and Tap and waste.

€2,000.00

Subtotal= €17,070.00
VAT 13.5% €2,304.45
Total €19,374.45

Dtp1979

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I've been asked to check the quote below to see what other plumbers might say. The entire house is being replumbed along with a few other changes. Would people be able to give feeback on the estimate below? How could money be saved here, or is there anything which should be in it that isn't? Thanks a million.

Supply & Fit the following -

Heating System
1 - New High Efficiency Boiler with 5 year warranty.
12 - New Compact Radiators.
12 - Radiator Valves.
1 - 3 zone kit to split system, Hot water, Downstairs and Upstairs.
1 - All necessary pipe & fittings.
1 - Heating system to be completely Re-piped.Hot & Cold -
1 - 300 litre Unvented Cylinder with Solar Coil.
1 - Pressurisation Kit.
1 - Walrus TQ400 Pump & Fittings.
1 - Water storage tanks in attic.
1 - All necessary re-working of plumbing to suit new Utility/Kitchen layout.
Solar
1 - 20 meter coil of DN16 solar pipe to be brought from Utility to Attic for possible futureuse.
Gas -
1 - Gas pipe to be upgraded for larger requirement.
1 - Kitchen supply for possible future use.
Total: €10,970.00

Additional:

Underfloor Heating-The removal of radiators and inclusion of underfloor piping and fittings cost to be additionalto previous = €600.00

Solar -The System we have priced for is a solar ready system.To go ahead with fully integrated solar system this is our costing.€3,500.00

Supply & Fit -
1 - Ensuite shower tray and trap.
1 - Shower valve.
1 - shower door.
1 - Towel Radiator & valves.
1 - Close coupled WC and seat.
1 - Wash hand basin and Tap and waste.

€2,000.00

Subtotal= €17,070.00
VAT 13.5% €2,304.45
Total €19,374.45

Sounds like the plumber knows what he's doing. Are you looking for a cheaper price?

Dtp1979

Dtp1979 wrote: »

Sounds like the plumber knows what he's doing. Are you looking for a cheaper price?

Not necessarily. But as I don't know anything about the profession and its costs I thought it would be prudent to see if people who do know could give me feedback on it as it's a significant expense. He said there is a Hot/Cold option (or something similarly named?) which costs about €10k extra and it's brilliant but that isn't in the budget so aside from that is there anything else which would be advised?

For instance, is it worth paying a bit extra for vertical radiators rather than the horizontal ones priced? Is it worth installing underfloor heating given our climate? While getting it solar ready for the future seems wise, is it worth paying €3k to make it solar now?

Dtp1979

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Not necessarily. But as I don't know anything about the profession and its costs I thought it would be prudent to see if people who do know could give me feedback on it as it's a significant expense. He said there is a Hot/Cold option (or something similarly named?) which costs about €10k extra and it's brilliant but that isn't in the budget so aside from that is there anything else which would be advised?

For instance, is it worth paying a bit extra for vertical radiators rather than the horizontal ones priced? Is it worth installing underfloor heating given our climate? While getting it solar ready for the future seems wise, is it worth paying €3k to make it solar now?

3k seems pricey just to first fix for solar.
Vertical rads are an eyesore in my opinion. It you like them then go for them. I wouldn't bother with underfloor heating. Get a weather compensation unit with your new boiler. This varies the radiator temps. The colder it is outside, the hotter the rads get. And vice Versa if it's hot outside.

Dtp1979

Dtp1979 wrote: »

3k seems pricey just to first fix for solar.
Vertical rads are an eyesore in my opinion. It you like them then go for them. I wouldn't bother with underfloor heating. Get a weather compensation unit with your new boiler. This varies the radiator temps. The colder it is outside, the hotter the rads get. And vice Versa if it's hot outside.

Brilliant. Thank you so much.

froshtyv

Dtp1979 wrote: »

3k seems pricey just to first fix for solar.
Vertical rads are an eyesore in my opinion. It you like them then go for them. I wouldn't bother with underfloor heating. Get a weather compensation unit with your new boiler. This varies the radiator temps. The colder it is outside, the hotter the rads get. And vice Versa if it's hot outside.

The €3,500 quoted is for the full install of the solar system.
The first fix is included in the first quotation.

Solar is a wast of money if you are looking for a return on your investment.
Lets say that you went ahead with the above, €4,000 all in for first and second fix.
If the solar saved you at a generous figure, €200 a year. 4000/200 = 20 years.
Factor in a service for 150 every 3 years and this pushes it out even longer.

Rads are an eye sore if they are vertical or horizontal. I would have underfloor heating installed in a heart beat. Superior thermal comfort compared to radiators.
The joys of the internet, you will receive everyones opinion, only you can decide what suits you and your budget.

Tederick

Hi

I just got quoted €22000 for replumbing 70s bungalow and €4000 for sanitary ware with additional €9000for rewiring includes two new does this seem excessive?

Small 4 dead bungalow

Sleeper12

Tederick wrote:

I just got quoted €22000 for replumbing 70s bungalow and €4000 for sanitary ware with additional €9000for rewiring includes two new does this seem excessive?

"Replumbing" can mean anything from replacing a few bathroom fittings to everything in the the house.
Is there a new boiler, rads, hot water cylinder, cold water tank etc?

Tederick

Hi

Yes new boiler rads etc.. not cold water tank but bathroom fittings quote 4000 not including vat for 22000 house only 852 sq ft not massive
Thanks

Dtp1979

Tederick wrote: »

Hi

Yes new boiler rads etc.. not cold water tank but bathroom fittings quote 4000 not including vat for 22000 house only 852 sq ft not massive
Thanks

So including sanitary ware it’s 22k?

Tederick

No 26k including sanitary ware not including vat

Dtp1979

Tederick wrote: »

No 26k including sanitary ware not including vat

Seems very expensive. How many bathrooms and radiators have you?

Tederick

About 10 rads 2 small ensuing 1 bathroom

Dtp1979

Tederick wrote: »

About 10 rads 2 small ensuing 1 bathroom

Ye 26k seems extortionate. Have they to cut a load of concrete floors or what? Even they expensive. What part of the country are u based. Well try recommend someone for you

Tederick

Hi DTp1979
Rest of quote is mad too just checking easy stuff
In Laois would appreciate any recommendation need a good builder?
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Dtp1979

Tederick wrote: »

Hi DTp1979
Rest of quote is mad too just checking easy stuff
In Laois would appreciate any recommendation need a good builder?
Tanx��

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ted1

I’d recommend PV solar with a diverter to heat your hot water , why more beneficial than thermal solar and zero maintenance costs

Wearb

ted1 wrote: »

I’d recommend PV solar with a diverter to heat your hot water , why more beneficial than thermal solar and zero maintenance costs

Seems to be becoming very popular. Any rough estimate of the installation costs Ted?

ted1

Wearb wrote: »

ted1 wrote: »

I’d recommend PV solar with a diverter to heat your hot water , why more beneficial than thermal solar and zero maintenance costs

Seems to be becoming very popular. Any rough estimate of the installation costs Ted?

Electric Ireland quote 4,500 for a decent size system , with interest free repayments

You may get cheaper from there or elsewhere by haggling
https://www.electricireland.ie/residential/products/smarter-living/solar-pv