Where does the best Money in cattle lie?

Da Boss

Having recently leased 19 acres reseeded it with the intention of putting cattle on it next spring I am wondering with what type of cattle does best chance of profit lie?? Note also I've no suitable sheds so animals will be sold off field come November? I'm aware there's no money to be made but breaking even after rent of would be bonus

Sam Kade

Larry Goodman's pocket

degetme

Fr cull cows. Factory at end of year

K.G.

Mart either you sell and some fella pays too much or you buy cheap and some other fella loses

patsy_mccabe

Doesn't make sense. Why would you lease 19 acres, reseed it and at best hope to break even?
What else are you not telling us?:mad:

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Doesn't make sense. Why would you lease 19 acres, reseed it and at best hope to break even?
What else are you not telling us?:mad:

My thoughts exactly.

pedigree 6

Da Boss. You'll need to have something graze it straight away after reseeding and not wait till next year otherwise the grass will get long, not tiller and rot at the butt.

Have you a herd no or an equine no perhaps.

I ask about the equine no as the herd no here qualified as the equine no so maybe it works in reverse also. Contact the dept of ag they'll tell you anyways.

Who2

store lambs for now after reseeding and light weanling heifers for next spring. they should be well on next sep oct time. and you shouldn't have wrecked the reseed.

cute geoge

degetme wrote: »

Fr cull cows. Factory at end of year

Cows when they start bulling on a wet day would rotavate a new ley

GrasstoMilk

cute geoge wrote: »

Cows when they start bulling on a wet day would rotavate a new ley

Not if it's well established. Never seen a reseed wrecked here and could have 10 cows on a busy day

Da Boss

Sam Kade wrote: »

Larry Goodman's pocket

Seems to be the way alrite 😂That's me problem

Da Boss

pedigree 6 wrote: »

Da Boss. You'll need to have something graze it straight away after reseeding and not wait till next year otherwise the grass will get long, not tiller and rot at the butt.

Have you a herd no or an equine no perhaps.

I ask about the equine no as the herd no here qualified as the equine no so maybe it works in reverse also. Contact the dept of ag they'll tell you anyways.

I have a man that will put cattle on land to keep the grass in check until the winter. I have a herd number yes

Da Boss

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Not if it's well established. Never seen a reseed wrecked here and could have 10 cows on a busy day

The land in question is dry and capable of carrying cows however there isn't demand from the factories for them

Da Boss

Leah Unimportant Coin wrote: »

My thoughts exactly.

Well of course making a profit and a few pounds at the end 4 all the hastle would be great ,that's my aim however seems easier said than done in this industry

blue5000

I'll stick my neck out and say AA or WH heifers about a yr old next spring and get them up on the hook before the winter. If you could rent b&b in a shed this winter buy them now, maybe stronger ones and kill them out of the shed, pay off the winter costs and put the rest into 3-400 kg heifers in march/april. Just my 2 cents. Is the 19 acres fenced?

Da Boss

blue5000 wrote: »

I'll stick my neck out and say AA or WH heifers about a yr old next spring and get them up on the hook before the winter. If you could rent b&b in a shed this winter buy them now, maybe stronger ones and kill them out of the shed, pay off the winter costs and put the rest into 3-400 kg heifers in march/april. Just my 2 cents. Is the 19 acres fenced?

Yeah I was thinking AA heifers tbh if I could buy them reasonably next spring.thats something that could be looked into also there is a local farmer after retiring with good sheds lying idle so that's something to look into, it's fenced with electric fencer a water troughs present and serviced from mains

Mooooo

If you could buy a mix of stock perhaps cows that could be finished early in the summer by June and yearlings as well so as the cows go more ground will become available for the younger stock as well as having some cash coming in mid year. Match the stocking rate to growth

Da Boss

Would buying freisian bull calves next spring and putting them on grass be a runner ?? Or does rearing calves like that leave u with nothing but hardship and weak calves

Da Boss

Mooooo wrote: »

If you could buy a mix of stock perhaps cows that could be finished early in the summer by June and yearlings as well so as the cows go more ground will become available for the younger stock as well as having some cash coming in mid year. Match the stocking rate to growth

Yes that could well be a runner managing grass is a place where so many farmers fail I agree it's important to be stocked right,being in the heart of dairy country cull cows are plentiful ,however am I right in saying cull cows bringing there share of problems mastitis ect?

Mooooo

If you could source cows which have been tubed when dried off and well soaked up and keep the spot on to them during the summer they should be fine. Still a risk but once checked regularly should be manageable

The part time boy

The other thing to take in account with cull coes is you could find your self with suckler . Know I guy that buys 150 a year and expects to have 10 calves each year

K.G.

High cell count fr cows and hd bull calves sucking.whole lot sold before winter

whelan2

K.G. wrote: »

High cell count fr cows and hd bull calves sucking.whole lot sold before winter

Know a dealer he makes a fair bit selling calves from culls he has bought that turn out in calf. Leave the calf on the cow. Be late registering the calf and sell it around 2months in the mart. 2months real age. 3weeks on card !

_Brian

Da Boss wrote: »

Having recently leased 19 acres reseeded it with the intention of putting cattle on it next spring I am wondering with what type of cattle does best chance of profit lie?? Note also I've no suitable sheds so animals will be sold off field come November? I'm aware there's no money to be made but breaking even after rent of would be bonus

My first question is what's your experience with beef stock ??
While there may be money in some aspects it's usually the more experienced lads at it that make the money.
Have you a keen eye to buy stock ?? It's the big thing, I know lyself buying we'd be OK, but still buy some stock that turn out disappointing and they make damn all.

Da Boss

_Brian wrote: »

My first question is what's your experience with beef stock ??
While there may be money in some aspects it's usually the more experienced lads at it that make the money.
Have you a keen eye to buy stock ?? It's the big thing, I know lyself buying we'd be OK, but still buy some stock that turn out disappointing and they make damn all.

I was born on a farm and have worked on the farm Since I could walk with my father,a dairy farmer.im no stranger to farming or cattle rearing however I've only been at a mart as a seller so there lies my weakpoint

_Brian

Da Boss wrote: »

I was born on a farm and have worked on the farm Since I could walk with my father,a dairy farmer.im no stranger to farming or cattle rearing however I've only been at a mart as a seller so there lies my weakpoint

I'm not saying it's a deal breaker, just something to acknowledge and keep an eye on. I know if My stock all performed like my top 1/3 it would be better, and that's down to buying experience.

Da Boss

_Brian wrote: »

I'm not saying it's a deal breaker, just something to acknowledge and keep an eye on. I know if My stock all performed like my top 1/3 it would be better, and that's down to buying experience.

Talking sense to be honest,it's important to buy wise

Cavanjack

_Brian wrote: »

I'm not saying it's a deal breaker, just something to acknowledge and keep an eye on. I know if My stock all performed like my top 1/3 it would be better, and that's down to buying experience.

Couldn't agree more. Weanlings I bought last back end for similar money and weight have up to 100kg difference between them now.

patsy_mccabe

You'll always have cattle you wish you didn't buy, even if you're at it years.

Good loser

AA and Her, male and female can be sold anytime.

Dairy breeds are a lot trickier.