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Learner permit and motorway

  • 28-07-2017 1:33pm
    #1
    youandme13
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 372 ✭✭


    For someone with a learner permit going from Citywest to Kildare, when the N7 stops at Naas does anyone continue on until Kildare town? Or how long would it take to get from Citywest to Kildare Town / Newbridge, if you go on the N7 road come off at Naas is it a much longer commute time?? Thanks


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  • #2
    grogi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,616 ✭✭✭grogi


    youandme13 wrote: »
    For someone with a learner permit going from Citywest to Kildare, when the N7 stops at Naas does anyone continue on until Kildare town? Or how long would it take to get from Citywest to Kildare Town / Newbridge, if you go on the N7 road come off at Naas is it a much longer commute time?? Thanks

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  • #3
    ironclaw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭ironclaw


    Hugely depends on your time of day. If its a commute, I'd wager twice as long as its right in the first commuter belt. That said, there are plenty of back roads between the two and you could find a lesiurely route.


  • #4
    munchkin_utd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,921 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    youandme13 wrote: »
    For someone with a learner permit going from Citywest to Kildare, when the N7 stops at Naas does anyone continue on until Kildare town? Or how long would it take to get from Citywest to Kildare Town / Newbridge, if you go on the N7 road come off at Naas is it a much longer commute time?? Thanks
    what is the issue
    With a learners permit you will have a driver with a full licence with you so just let them drive the motorway bit


  • #5
    Cheensbo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,704 ✭✭✭Cheensbo


    munchkin_utd wrote: »
    what is the issue
    With a learners permit you will have a driver with a full licence with you so just let them drive the motorway bit

    Did you get lost on your way to the equestrian forum?

    Op it will take you up to an hour to get from the black ball to kildare via non-motorway routes, double this for bad traffic days, half it for good days.


  • #6
    notharrypotter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,112 ✭✭✭notharrypotter


    Cheensbo wrote: »
    Did you get lost on your way to the equestrian forum?

    Op it will take you up to an hour to get from the black ball to kildare via non-motorway routes, double this for bad traffic days, half it for good days.

    Anyone with a learner permit must be accompanied by a full license holder (who has held their full licence for more than two years, not a "N" licence)at all times.

    The suggestion by munchkin_utd actually makes sense providing the OP is complying with the law.


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  • #7
    honda boi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭honda boi


    notharrypotter wrote: »
    Anyone with a learner permit must be accompanied by a full license holder (who has held their full licence for more than two years, not a "N" licence)at all times.

    The suggestion by munchkin_utd actually makes sense providing the OP is complying with the law.
    Makes sense but that would mean every full licence holder needs to be insured or have there own insurance thats ever in the car.


  • #8
    peteb2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,813 ✭✭✭peteb2


    honda boi wrote: »
    Makes sense but that would mean every full licence holder needs to be insured or have there own insurance thats ever in the car.

    They have to anyway. That's the purpose of them being in the car!


  • #9
    honda boi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭honda boi


    peteb2 wrote: »
    They have to anyway. That's the purpose of them being in the car!

    Never knew they had to be insured.
    Thought they only need a full licence for more then 2 years.


  • #10
    uck51js9zml2yt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    honda boi wrote: »
    Never knew they had to be insured.
    Thought they only need a full licence for more then 2 years.

    They only need to be insured if they are to drive the motorway from naas to kildare


  • #11
    JohnBoy26
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    peteb2 wrote: »
    They have to anyway. That's the purpose of them being in the car!

    The qualified accompanying driver has to have their own insurance? Where does it state that? And how is it the purpose of them being in the car?

    From what I see, a fully qualified driver being in the passenger seat only covers the learner drivers through the learner drivers policy and not the passenger.

    The only way the passenger is covered to drive the car is if they have a third party extension on their own policy or the op has open drive(unlikely) or if they are named on the op's policy.


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  • #12
    honda boi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,756 ✭✭✭honda boi


    Had a quick search there and seen nothing on needing insurance as an accompanying driver.


  • #13
    peteb2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,813 ✭✭✭peteb2


    honda boi wrote: »
    Had a quick search there and seen nothing on needing insurance as an accompanying driver.

    Never said it was legislation but the purpose of the fully licenced driver is that he has to be in a position to take over the dricing. Ergo needs insurance.

    Is the accompanying passenger with full licence allowed to be over the limit with alcohol??


  • #14
    GhostyMcGhost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,348 ✭✭✭GhostyMcGhost


    peteb2 wrote: »
    Never said it was legislation but the purpose of the fully licenced driver is that he has to be in a position to take over the dricing. Ergo needs insurance.

    Is the accompanying passenger with full licence allowed to be over the limit with alcohol??
    No the purpose is not to take the wheel but yes for that they'd need insurance

    The purpose is to assist with anything from roadsigns, to "what lane should I be in?" type stuff

    Full driver isn't required to drive at any point but can't be drunk or disqualified or an N driver


  • #15
    GM228
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    To clarify there is no requirement that the accompanying person have insurance or otherwise be insured to drive the vehicle. There is no requirement for them to be sober (legally they can't be subjected to testing), there is no requirement to assist, just that they "supervise" - something which isn't defined or has a set standard to be met, there isn't even a requirement for them to sit beside you in the passenger seat.

    So to clarify all that is required is for the learner driver must be accompanied and supervised by someone who holds a full driving licence which has been held without disqualification for a continuous period of 2 years for the category being driven and it can't be someone with an automatic restricted licence when in a manual vehicle.


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