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'Honour killing' must be the most inappropriate phrase of all time

  • 25-07-2017 10:35am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 558 ✭✭✭


    In this era of hyper political correctness and proper terminology, doesn't it sicken you that the media still refer to barbaric tribal murders as 'honour killings'? What is honourable about it? Raping and murdering a woman in cold blood for daring to have a relationship of her own choice.

    http://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/britain/woman-raped-and-murdered-in-honour-killing-after-starting-relationship-with-arab-man-35965586.html

    The power of language can be a very influential factor in culture and behaviour. For example, the difference between calling someone a freedom fighter, or a terrorist.
    Maybe something like 'cuck murder' would be more useful? The immediate association with being a cuck might be enough to make these losers think twice. After all, it is their 'pride' and reputation they are most concerned about.

    What do you think they should be replaced with?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭DipStick McSwindler


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 612 ✭✭✭ForstalDave


    i dont think anyone in the media is suggesting the murder is honorable but that the murder was committed due to perception of the murdered having brought dishonor to the family and thus was killed to restore this honor


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    There is nothing honourable about killing someone because they choose to make their own decisions as an adult.

    It's a complete misnomer, and should never be used, imho.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Yeah, that, or American Intelligence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Are Am Eye


    I think the media in every place where they use the expression 'honour killing' should have to instead substitute that with 'purported honour killing that is in fact very dishonourable and also morally reprehensible'



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,863 ✭✭✭Beta Ray Bill


    Muslims don't integrate well with Western Culture.

    A lot of them (Not all), believe their own religious rules and laws trump our national rules and laws, and hence a few believe they can do what they wish.

    Many Muslims in the UK would support sharia law being in place in some parts of the UK.

    Total mess really.
    I've nothing against them I'm not racist or anything, but Western (Christian) and Muslims society are not compatible.
    This has been shown time and time again down through the ages.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Cuck is worse than anything else OP, get a grip.

    Rape Culture is the most ridiculous term I've heard in a while. That gets my vote.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,606 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Cuck is worse than anything else OP, get a grip.

    Rape Culture is the most ridiculous term I've heard in a while. That gets my vote.

    The word 'privilege' has also been ruined forever.


  • Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    doesn't it sicken you that the media still refer to barbaric tribal murders as 'honour killings'?

    Aren't "the media" simply quoting from the prosecutor's opening statement? Hence the quotes?

    Would need to see the court report to be sure.

    The BBC reported it as a rape/murder and some think that they are "hiding the true horror of Islamic life.

    https://biasedbbc.org/blog/2017/07/24/whats-missing/
    What do you think they should be replaced with?

    Murder. These men are murderers and rapists, simples.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 448 ✭✭Syphonax


    Its not an inappropriate terminology if thats how its viewed by those who are committing the 'crime'. Lets face it, if they lived back in their own Prehistoric country it would probably be regarded as 'honour'. Commiting such an act in the civilized world however, they should be labelled as the murderous scum that they are, trialed by law and personally, myself, given death by lethal injection once found guilty, just so they cannot do it again, for sure.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    When your culture is basically Klingon you know you've no place in modern society.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,900 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove




    Murder. These men are murderers and rapists, simples.

    The article clearly states that the woman was murdered

    They are on trial for murder

    if convicted they will be declared murderers


    "honour killing" is used to indicate what their alleged motive was


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,561 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    That's a brutal murder. That poor girl was dehumanised in the extreme.

    Is the rape bit really necessary? Or is it really just an opportunity for these backward animals to get a release from their self imposed sexual frustrations...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    I think the point made about the term "honour killing" being used to describe the motives of the attackers is how it should be viewed. By using this term, I don't think it consequently creates a hint of a justification in any form but rather exposes the brainwashed and backward nature of the belief system to which the attackers adhere to. As such, it should trigger right minded people who associate with said belief system (or variations of such) to stand up and speak out among other followers of the belief system to deter any other would-be murderers. It is not enough to simply reactively condemn such acts but instead to proactively preach and speak out against such attitudes that are undoubtedly common among those subscribing to this religious doctrine to ensure that such people are not welcome in the community.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Of course they call it honor but what they really mean is control.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Prosecutor Binita Roscoe told the court the teenager was of Indian Muslim heritage and had started a relationship with an Arab Muslim man
    We have reached peak islamophobia
    lawred2 wrote: »
    Is the rape bit really necessary? Or is it really just an opportunity for these backward animals to get a release from their self imposed sexual frustrations...
    Women prisoners are routinely raped before execution to prevent them from entering heaven.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    [QUOTE=biko;104185593]We have reached peak islamophobia


    Women prisoners are routinely raped before execution to prevent them from entering heaven.[/QUOTE]

    it's probably the West's fault :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,863 ✭✭✭Beta Ray Bill


    biko wrote: »
    We have reached peak islamophobia

    Aren't Muslims in India mostly Sunni?
    Perhaps the "Arab" was Shia

    Or maybe it was the other way around, either way they don't get on with one another.
    biko wrote: »
    Women prisoners are routinely raped before execution to prevent them from entering heaven.

    Again, Islamic laws/rules/religion have no place in western society.
    They are completely incompatible.

    That f**king disgusting btw, I did not know that was the reason :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,561 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    biko wrote: »
    lawred2 wrote: »
    Is the rape bit really necessary? Or is it really just an opportunity for these backward animals to get a release from their self imposed sexual frustrations...
    Women prisoners are routinely raped before execution to prevent them from entering heaven.

    That's handy for the rapist. Doing God's work. Great bunch of lads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭222233


    biko wrote: »
    We have reached peak islamophobia


    Women prisoners are routinely raped before execution to prevent them from entering heaven.

    What fables have such people been reading that they actually think that would make any logical sense? This story is sick.


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