Wrapper.

lakill Farm

Making 200/300 bales a year at moment. But looking at renting a place next year and will probably be doubling bales and also be using 100 straw a year which I intend to single wrap and store outside for present times.

So what wrapper would be suited to me. 105hp 4 cylinder McCormick but auld man talking about Going halves on a 2nd tractor for bog. No idea what yet but I'll have access to it as he has never farmed.

Want something simple to use that I could let herself off or even the auld lad. Both with zero experience. Even an automatic cycle of 16/24 wraps would do the business

Costing me 2e a bale at moment to wrap but flexibility to wrap after I draw them would be great. And wrap straw also.

Thinking of joystick Connor or mchale. But open to others also.

What's to look out on them wear wise.

Thinking 3/4K incl or excl vat budget so 5 year payback and always have it plus added flexibility. Going to keep eye around coming into quieter season now

mycro2013

I've use all different brands and to be honest they are relatively simple machines with the majority of issues being structural. Partially down to the manufacturers not increasing the steel stock used as the weight of the bale has increased.(Structurally a Mchale 991 has remained relatively unchanged since the mid 90s)

Fixed alot of mchales and to be honest they are soft enough. Main issues are cracked chassises. Cracked bale lifting arms, Broken bale damper arms, cracked dispenser holding brackets, and main table support plates cracking. Majority of electrical issues are mainly failed sensors.

These machines are worked hard and relatively cheap to replace so lads use them and replace frequently with good machines being scarce.

5K plus vat will get a good one. Aim for a BER offers alot more options of use including remote wrapping at the stack. And an easier machine to use for the operator but these machines command a premium. One of the plus points for a mchale over the conor is the lower table height and bale centre of gravity reducing the occurrence of the bale flying off the table(operator dependent).

Finally I've always used them on a Ferguson with the twin pumps with 70 bales an hour easily achievable.

lakill Farm

Thank you for such a comprehensive reply.

mycro2013 wrote: »

I've use all different brands and to be honest they are relatively simple machines with the majority of issues being structural. Partially down to the manufacturers not increasing the steel stock used as the weight of the bale has increased.(Structurally a Mchale 991 has remained relatively unchanged since the mid 90s)

Fixed alot of mchales and to be honest they are soft enough. Main issues are cracked chassises. Cracked bale lifting arms, Broken bale damper arms, cracked dispenser holding brackets, and main table support plates cracking. Majority of electrical issues are mainly failed sensors.

These machines are worked hard and relatively cheap to replace so lads use them and replace frequently with good machines being scarce.

5K plus vat will get a good one. Aim for a BER offers alot more options of use including remote wrapping at the stack. And an easier machine to use for the operator but these machines command a premium. One of the plus points for a mchale over the conor is the lower table height and bale centre of gravity reducing the occurrence of the bale flying off the table(operator dependent).

Finally I've always used them on a Ferguson with the twin pumps with 70 bales an hour easily achievable.

larthehar

We have a tanco 550s, bought for 4k in 2008 and doing 700-900 per year.. never spent a penny on it but it had very little done..
Tbh, i would try go remote control if i were you cause you will end up wrapping yourself and you are talking the guts of 1min per bale.. i bought it thinking they would be someone to follow it.. novelty wears off for them pretty quick!!

Panch18

Lads, does anyone know if you Can you add a remote control pack to a HS2000??

maidhc

My father bought a Kvernland 7510 back in 1996. It was far from new then, but it works fine still. The turntable cracked alright 6/7 years ago and I got it welded and took the opportunity to renew the bearings. I think they are a thing that lasts forever.

mycro2013

Panch18 wrote: »

Lads, does anyone know if you Can you add a remote control pack to a HS2000??

The hs2000 uses the same controls as the BER and can be remotely operated. These were available with a tow pack to enable the wrapper to be tow behind the baler pre fusion with full automatic control available (scroll through the operating menu of the control box to find the setting.)

If you have any other queries let me know as I have repaired and operated a few.

lakill Farm

Maybe remote is the way to go.

I'll look into it

larthehar wrote: »

We have a tanco 550s, bought for 4k in 2008 and doing 700-900 per year.. never spent a penny on it but it had very little done..
Tbh, i would try go remote control if i were you cause you will end up wrapping yourself and you are talking the guts of 1min per bale.. i bought it thinking they would be someone to follow it.. novelty wears off for them pretty quick!!

lakill Farm

Whats the different letters mean if you have a list.

a BJS is the Joystick I get that

what one would I be looking at for a remote control or ability to add remote control? and is it expensive to buy a remote kit to the wrappers if they are enabled from factory

mycro2013 wrote: »

I've use all different brands and to be honest they are relatively simple machines with the majority of issues being structural. Partially down to the manufacturers not increasing the steel stock used as the weight of the bale has increased.(Structurally a Mchale 991 has remained relatively unchanged since the mid 90s)

Fixed alot of mchales and to be honest they are soft enough. Main issues are cracked chassises. Cracked bale lifting arms, Broken bale damper arms, cracked dispenser holding brackets, and main table support plates cracking. Majority of electrical issues are mainly failed sensors.

These machines are worked hard and relatively cheap to replace so lads use them and replace frequently with good machines being scarce.

5K plus vat will get a good one. Aim for a BER offers alot more options of use including remote wrapping at the stack. And an easier machine to use for the operator but these machines command a premium. One of the plus points for a mchale over the conor is the lower table height and bale centre of gravity reducing the occurrence of the bale flying off the table(operator dependent).

Finally I've always used them on a Ferguson with the twin pumps with 70 bales an hour easily achievable.

Grazon

lakill Farm wrote:

Whats the different letters mean if you have a list.

lakill Farm wrote:

a BJS is the Joystick I get that

lakill Farm wrote:

what one would I be looking at for a remote control or ability to add remote control? and is it expensive to buy a remote kit to the wrappers if they are enabled from factory

BER has the remote.

IH784man

BE has a computer that does it all itself,set the number of wraps at the start of the day then once you press the button it will wrap to your set number of wraps automatically then another button automatically tips it off.Very handy,you wouldn't go back to counting after it

Some other newer mc hale models have it.