Ideas on ways to make wall flush

V0X

I am looking for ideas on what we can do to make this boundary wall flush with the wall it is meeting. It is 50mm out so it is too much to fill with render alone I think.

Does anyone have any good suggestions on what cost effective materials we could use to fill it and render over?

Calahonda52

hard to u/stand picture

Bonzo Delaney

Fix insulated cement board of 38-50 mm thickness which ever suits to the wall and sand and cement that
Or else batten the wall fix a rib lath mesh to the batten then render that

Bonzo Delaney

Just looked at the pic
Is there not a stop end for that panel or else make up a corner band in render that over laps both surfaces otherwise if its flush it'll crack or else a fancy shadow gap detail that could be more work than its worth

V0X

Bonzo Delaney wrote: »

Just looked at the pic
Is there not a stop end for that panel or else make up a corner band in render that over laps both surfaces otherwise if its flush it'll crack or else a fancy shadow gap detail that could be more work than its worth

There is a shadow gap beading currently.

V0X

Calahonda52 wrote: »

hard to u/stand picture

Maybe this diagram is clearer. We are trying to pad out one side of the wall by approx 50mm so it reads as one clean line. Left is what we have right is what we are looking to achieve.

@Bozo Thanks for the suggestion. Generally how are the insulated cements boards fixed to the existing wall?

sydthebeat

In all seriousness, why bother?

Victor

Is that a boundary wall meeting the corner of a house?

I'd be tempted to leave it alone, or at most fill it at a 45 degree angle.

Or add climbing plants to the wall.

V0X

Victor wrote: »

Is that a boundary wall meeting the corner of a house?

I'd be tempted to leave it alone, or at most fill it at a 45 degree angle.

Or add climbing plants to the wall.

Yes, unfortunately I am very particular :pac:

@ syd It just looks wrong so one way or another I want to fill the wall out. Just need some ideas on how.

sydthebeat

V0X wrote: »

Yes, unfortunately I am very particular :pac:

@ syd It just looks wrong so one way or another I want to fill the wall out. Just need some ideas on how.

Well like Victor above, if it's purely aesthetics that's the issue, I'd be more inclined to create a visual divide between the house and wall, evening if it was only 500mm wide outcrop or vegetation growth.

Bonzo Delaney

V0X wrote: »

Maybe this diagram is clearer. We are trying to pad out one side of the wall by approx 50mm so it reads as one clean line. Left is what we have right is what we are looking to achieve.

@Bozo Thanks for the suggestion. Generally how are the insulated cements boards fixed to the existing wall?

They could be mushroom fixed to the substrate since its outside I'd be inclined to fix rib lath to the board also using mushroom fixings through both .
Where the two surfaces meet you'll still have to form an expansion joint using a stop bead and mastic other wise it'll crack.

V0X

Bonzo Delaney wrote: »

They could be mushroom fixed to the substrate since its outside I'd be inclined to fix rib lath to the board also using mushroom fixings through both .
Where the two surfaces meet you'll still have to form an expansion joint using a stop bead and mastic other wise it'll crack.

Thanks.

Johnnyhpipe

You've little to be worrying about... christ almighty

Bonzo Delaney

Johnnyhpipe wrote: »

You've little to be worrying about... christ almighty

The world needs people like Vox . To keep tradesfolk on our toes so that when setting out jobs the finer finish details are been figured out too. Otherwise every one pays big money for poor standards .

the_pen_turner

is there a cap on the wall
how will this look overhanging and stopping at the house

Dupont

Could you fill out the step with a few scratch coats to 25 mm and kango off the plaster or whatever is on the other to 25mm back ?

Metric Tensor

There will have to be some sort of cap/lip otherwise you'll destroy the front of the wall and it will look crap. So you are going to have a somewhat untidy detail were this lip meets the house wall that you will just have to be prepared for.

Cheap way: A shrub in a pot which has the bonus of hiding the end of the lip too!

Expensive way: Fibre cement board and render- that is assuming the substrate can handle it. I can't really figure out from the picture what the existing garden wall is made from. It looks like some type of slab?

Whatever you do don't tell the neighbours what you're at or you'll forever be the guy who spent 5 grand* to move a garden wall 2 inches!

(* Made up figure - I've no idea how much it would cost. What length of wall are we talking about?)

P.S. - I feel your pain. I hate to see that sort of thing but even though it would annoy me every day I don't think I could justify the expense of fixing it.

Metric Tensor

Also - as per above - don't forget a movement joint between the two or you'll have crack.

tradesman

Is this a new house?

blindside88

the_pen_turner wrote: »

is there a cap on the wall
how will this look overhanging and stopping at the house

This would be my thought as well. Capping to overhang the required distance to bring it flush with the house

Calahonda52

sydthebeat wrote: »

In all seriousness, why bother?

+1
No wonder He wept

Bonzo Delaney

blindside88 wrote: »

This would be my thought as well. Capping to overhang the required distance to bring it flush with the house

There could be a rounded rendered capping on it thus leaving the wall flush . Not really suitable to this country though. But not unheard of.
Hence why i mentioned all these details should of been confirmed prior to starting.

Bonzo Delaney

Calahonda52 wrote: »

+1
No wonder He wept

Surprised at this comment Calahonda I've often done projects for people where ive doubted their reasoning but its their house even if they wanted an inverted cross on their chimney stack id be only concerned how to get up there safely

ustari

Think it looks better as is than it would going flush across.

You want to separate the lines a bit, don't want an endless flat wall to the eye.