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Second hand rig advice

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  • 19-07-2017 8:23pm
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    jebidiah
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    Looking to purchase a secondhand rig when I move back to Ireland later this month. Looking for suggestions on a rig, specifically on the life left in certain processors.

    Budget is probably around 600, and will try to wait for a bargain rather than up my budget to 800.

    Would an older i5-2500k or 4690K processor still be worth it? 2 more years before needing to replace? ddr3 ram would mean the whole rig would probably need to go.

    Or would I be better off getting a more current processor / LGA 1151 chipset that I can maybe upgrade to a 6600K in the near future. Can keep ram and mobo this route

    I see a good few decent set ups on adverts. Combining the above processors with lower end GPU's. Im happy enough to play at 1080p and a 1060/960/970 would do me for now.


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    K.O.Kiki
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    Nothing wrong with a DDR3 system, game makers still haven't shown that the newest CPUs are necessary to enjoy games.


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    TerrorFirmer
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    I would leave a 2500K at this point probably as it needs a fairly substansial overclock to keep up in some of the newest games @ 60fps (BF1 online for example).

    For 600 you will get a pretty decent 2nd hand system. Where are you based? I would look for a 3rd gen i7, or 4th gen i5 onwards with your budget. For 600 it should be no issue to get something like an i7-3770/i5-4670 (or similar) based machine with something like a GTX970 which would run most things at 1080p high-ultra very well.


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    -l-Z3k3-l-
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    I disagree on the i5-2500K
    I had one until only very recently
    Played BF4 on Ultra and no bottleneck and that's more intensive then BF1 is
    I was only running a 4.2OC on it also

    600 is a good budget. there are a bunch of systems for sale on Adverts that you could haggle on.
    If you can get or already have a monitor it'll make your range of what you can get even better


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    TerrorFirmer
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    That's not true at all, BF4 online is nowhere near as demanding as Battlefield 1, where are you getting that from?

    In Battlefield 1 online, the i5-2500/2500K hovers around 45-50fps at stock 3.3Ghz, it needs to be overclocked to about 4.2-4.4Ghz reach a stable 55-60fps. The OP may not be interested in that.

    With a budget of 600, you don't need to settle for the 2500K. It was a good processor back in the day, but why buy it now when you have the budget to get better ones. i7-2600, i7-3770, i5-4xx0 CPU's, etc are all superior and can easily be found in that price range.


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    jebidiah
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    TerrorFirmer wrote: »
    That's not true at all, BF4 online is nowhere near as demanding as Battlefield 1, where are you getting that from?

    In Battlefield 1 online, the i5-2500/2500K hovers around 45-50fps at stock 3.3Ghz, it needs to be overclocked to about 4.2-4.4Ghz reach a stable 55-60fps. The OP may not be interested in that.

    With a budget of 600, you don't need to settle for the 2500K. It was a good processor back in the day, but why buy it now when you have the budget to get better ones. i7-2600, i7-3770, i5-4xx0 CPU's, etc are all superior and can easily be found in that price range.

    Thanks for your replies. I'm based in Dublin, but wont be back for a few weeks. Overclocking wouldn't be a problem, and most of the systems with those processors on adverts seem to have been OC'd by their owners.

    But yes, ideally something with a fairly decent base clock speed to begin with so I'm not going crazy. This will be hopefully my first proper pc, and I definitely want to experiment with overclocking.

    With something like an i7-3770/i5-4670 where would I be in say 2 years? I would probably be at the stage where I will want to buy my own system then anyway.


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    jebidiah
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    -l-Z3k3-l- wrote: »
    I disagree on the i5-2500K
    I had one until only very recently
    Played BF4 on Ultra and no bottleneck and that's more intensive then BF1 is
    I was only running a 4.2OC on it also

    600 is a good budget. there are a bunch of systems for sale on Adverts that you could haggle on.
    If you can get or already have a monitor it'll make your range of what you can get even better

    I don't have a monitor at the moment so I'm looking at 600 for the rig and then a monitor for around 100.

    Is there anywhere else bar adverts worth checking out? Ive been away for 6 years, don't exactly have my ear to the ground anymore.


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    -l-Z3k3-l-
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    jebidiah wrote: »
    I don't have a monitor at the moment so I'm looking at 600 for the rig and then a monitor for around 100.

    Is there anywhere else bar adverts worth checking out? Ive been away for 6 years, don't exactly have my ear to the ground anymore.

    You could try donedeal.ie maybe, but I mainly sell and buy on Adverts myself.
    I like the haggling :)


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    -l-Z3k3-l-
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    TerrorFirmer wrote: »
    That's not true at all, BF4 online is nowhere near as demanding as Battlefield 1, where are you getting that from?

    In Battlefield 1 online, the i5-2500/2500K hovers around 45-50fps at stock 3.3Ghz, it needs to be overclocked to about 4.2-4.4Ghz reach a stable 55-60fps. The OP may not be interested in that.

    With a budget of 600, you don't need to settle for the 2500K. It was a good processor back in the day, but why buy it now when you have the budget to get better ones. i7-2600, i7-3770, i5-4xx0 CPU's, etc are all superior and can easily be found in that price range.


    At stock, yea fair enough, I had min OC'd and was easily getting over 60FPS
    And I actually find both seem to be as CPU intensive as each other. I was playing both last night to see how it was doing :)


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    TerrorFirmer
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    BF1 is far, far more intensive - maybe 50% more taxing on all CPU's. Some processors that run BF4 online at 60fps perfectly struggle to hit 30fps in BF1 online.

    Even in the case of the i5-2500, in BF4 online it would hit almost 90fps and all cores would not be fully taxed, if you run monitoring software on an i5-2500, even at 45-50fps it's being taxed 90-100% on all cores in BF1.
    With something like an i7-3770/i5-4670 where would I be in say 2 years? I would probably be at the stage where I will want to buy my own system then anyway.

    Yes, but the i7-3770 will fare out better, though an i5-4670 or similar 4th gen CPU could be upgraded easily to a 4th gen i7 which will last a very long time.

    This is an extremely decent setup for €550 (and I'm sure he'd take a close offer) - is perfect for games right now with a very solid base (i7-3770K, 32GB Ram, SSD) and the graphics card is older but still decent and can easily be sold on and upgraded down the line.


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