Letter from Revenue re; health expenses.

Charlie George

Just got a letter today from revenue about health expenses for the last 4 years,i probably put in a bit extra for each year but i never thought they would come looking for 4 years,a friend of mine got a similar letter looking for 1 year.
If there was a bit of advice on what to do i would appreciate it.

srsly78

Show them receipts is all the advice you need. You did keep all those MED2 forms right?

If not then no problem, just pay back the tax relief along with some interest.

Charlie George

Thanks very much sherlock but if you looked at the origional post you would see that i dont have all the receipts.

Charlie George

Thanks very much sherlock but if you looked at the origional post you would see that i dont have all the receipts.

pc7

I wouldn't think we can advise on fraud here to be honest if I'm reading your post correctly.
Have you kept any receipts at all? Do you remember how much you over claimed by? Perhaps you could say you can't find them but they might ask you to contact health care provider for copies? Or just come clean!

pc7

Charlie George wrote: »

Thanks very much sherlock but if you looked at the origional post you would see that i dont have all the receipts.

I don't see that mentioned anywhere in original post.

srsly78

OP come clean straight away and you might get a reduced penalty.

Miaireland

They want you to submit the receipts. You don't have them. Submit what you have and you will jave to pay back what you overclaimed. Not sire if they will charge you an fine.

Stheno

Charlie George wrote: »

Thanks very much sherlock but if you looked at the origional post you would see that i dont have all the receipts.

You'll have to repay what you incorrectly claimed for and probably pay additional interest

sunny2004

Charlie George wrote: »

Thanks very much sherlock but if you looked at the origional post you would see that i dont have all the receipts.

You failed to mention this in the post

tracey turnblad

Go to your doctor and get all the receipts and go to the chemist and get all your receipts. Give them to the revenue. What ever you have t got they will ask you to pay back... just pay it back. A new feature on revenue.ie is that you can upload your receipts on to their site and keep track of them there you can then dispose of them

EndaHonesty

Charlie George wrote: »

Just got a letter today from revenue about health expenses for the last 4 years,i probably put in a bit extra for each year but i never thought they would come looking for 4 years,a friend of mine got a similar letter looking for 1 year.
If there was a bit of advice on what to do i would appreciate it.

How much did you exaggerate the claims?

Is it 10%, 50%, 100%?

killbillvol2

tracey turnblad wrote: »

Go to your doctor and get all the receipts and go to the chemist and get all your receipts. Give them to the revenue. What ever you have t got they will ask you to pay back... just pay it back. A new feature on revenue.ie is that you can upload your receipts on to their site and keep track of them there you can then dispose of them

It's not as simple as paying it back. There's interest and possibly other penalties. And rightly so.

carleigh

Interest or penalties are at the discretion of the Inspector of Taxes. You're best bet is to submit any receipts you do have. If there is a resulting underpayment it can either be paid via Revpay or you can have your tax credits reduced going forward.

Mrs OBumble

Charlie George wrote: »

i probably put in a bit extra for each year but i never thought they would come looking for 4 years

You put in enough more to make them suspicious enough to choose you for audit. That's likely more than "a bit".

Either put in the receipts you do have, if it's really "not much" extra you claimed, or contact an accountant for professional advice on how to come clean with Revenue.

lollpop

Contact your doctor/chemist for receipts and give revenue all the receipts you can. If you can't they will take back the money. You are supposed to keep the receipts for 6 years. Whether or not they charge a penalty/interest depends on the individual situation. I was 100 euro out when I was audited. It was an honest miscalculation and I wasn't penalised. If they are not happy with your response, they'll likely ask for more years and audit you again in the future. Id also ensure the rest of your tax affairs are in order.

Mongfinder General

killbillvol2 wrote: »

It's not as simple as paying it back. There's interest and possibly other penalties. And rightly so.

Revenue will be all over the OP for the next few years. Once they get a sniff they usually keep going. They will ride him/her for interest and penalties too. You'd wonder what boards.ie obligations are in this respect. A crime has been admitted to. Are they obliged to report it? Could Revenue order boards.ie to disclose the IP address of the OP?

martingriff

Mongfinder General wrote: »

killbillvol2 wrote: »

It's not as simple as paying it back. There's interest and possibly other penalties. And rightly so.

Revenue will be all over the OP for the next few years. Once they get a sniff they usually keep going. They will ride him/her for interest and penalties too. You'd wonder what boards.ie obligations are in this respect. A crime has been admitted to. Are they obliged to report it? Could Revenue order boards.ie to disclose the IP address of the OP?

Had a bad experience with revenue. If you own up work with and not against or bury your head in the sand they might surprise you. That said he over sized his claim so no sympathy from me

killbillvol2

Mongfinder General wrote: »

Revenue will be all over the OP for the next few years. Once they get a sniff they usually keep going. They will ride him/her for interest and penalties too. You'd wonder what boards.ie obligations are in this respect. A crime has been admitted to. Are they obliged to report it? Could Revenue order boards.ie to disclose the IP address of the OP?

Your first three sentences were making sense. The rest of your post is nonsense.

nelly17

Do you have health insurance? You'd probably have a record of the corresponding treatments with them if you claimed from them which could be of help if you have no recipts - unless you have claimed fraudulently in which case, thanks for that the best of luck with it

Reputable Rog

Go to your doctor and pharmacists and ask for a print out of expenses incurred, get a copy of health insurance claims made if any and submit them.
If your still short of receipts ring them and explain the situation.
I got checked a few years ago and was short a Med 2 for a dental procedure, they were insisting on it but my dentist had retired, in any event they would have had a copy of the Med 2 as it has to be submitted directly to revenue whilst other receipts don't, so they eventually backed down.
If you have overclaimed they will pursue you, if you've underclaimed they will refund you.

billybonkers

Charlie George wrote: »

Thanks very much sherlock but if you looked at the origional post you would see that i dont have all the receipts.

It very clearly states on the form to keep all the receipts for each corresponding year in case they want to audit.

You didn't follow the instructions, you have also admitted to over claiming "a bit for each year". How much is a bit?

How much is a bit multiplied by 4?

You are the reason we can't have nice things. Come clean with them now and pay it back or expect harsh penalties going forward. Leo wants to crack down on this kind of thing.

Expect to be made an example of, hopefully you are.

Waster

optogirl

Charlie George wrote: »

i probably put in a bit extra for each year but i never thought they would come looking

Whose money do you think you were claiming here? FFS - you will have to pay it back plus interest and rightly so

groovyg

You are supposed to keep those receipts for six years - its states this very clearly on the revenue website
http://www.revenue.ie/en/personal-tax-credits-reliefs-and-exemptions/health-and-age/health-expenses/applying-for-relief-and-receipts.aspx

CIARAN_BOYLE

Charlie George wrote: »

Thanks very much sherlock but if you looked at the origional post you would see that i dont have all the receipts.

Your pharmacy (assuming you just use one, I don't and would be screwed here as I use loads of different ones) keeps a record of your purchases.

Your doctor and dentist may also have records but you can't guarantee this.

Good luck tracking down receipts. If you are fully cooperative you are likely to be assessed with minimal penalties.

Dial Hard

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote:

Your pharmacy (assuming you just use one, I don't and would be screwed here as I use loads of different ones) keeps a record of your purchases.

I think it's safe to assume that the receipts don't exist because the OP claimed for treatments/prescriptions he never actually received.

jimmycrackcorm

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote:

Good luck tracking down receipts. If you are fully cooperative you are likely to be assessed with minimal penalties.

Definitely worthwhile logging receipts in MyAccount online. Conveniently they have an app to do so.

Mine are generally prescriptions so I'd rely on being able to go back to the pharmacy to get a print out.

Charlie George

billybonkers wrote: »

Charlie George wrote: »

Thanks very much sherlock but if you looked at the origional post you would see that i dont have all the receipts.

It very clearly states on the form to keep all the receipts for each corresponding year in case they want to audit.

You didn't follow the instructions, you have also admitted to over claiming "a bit for each year". How much is a bit?

How much is a bit multiplied by 4?

You are the reason we can't have nice things. Come clean with them now and pay it back or expect harsh penalties going forward. Leo wants to crack down on this kind of thing.

Expect to be made an example of, hopefully you are.

Waster

What a langer.

martingriff

Charlie George wrote: »

What a langer.

Hold on a second you have come on here moaning because the Revenue (which they are entitled to do) are doing an audit on expenses which you yourself have said you added on to. What did you think would happen. People go it the government its good enough for them. You have been told what you need to do and what may happen if you are not forthcoming quickly. How much did you over claim by. Some people do not like this type of exaggeration of a claim and then bemoaning when you come a cropper.

Jobs OXO

Charlie George wrote: »

Just got a letter today from revenue about health expenses for the last 4 years,i probably put in a bit extra for each year but i never thought they would come looking for 4 years,a friend of mine got a similar letter looking for 1 year.
If there was a bit of advice on what to do i would appreciate it.

You always seem to be in some kind of trouble whether it's property tax, issues with neighbours, fighting with airlines, speeding and now fraud by overstating your medical expenses. 3 months in the joy might straighten your ways. Nothing else is working.

threetrees

Be honest and say you've receipts for this and none for that. Let them issue fines, repayment notices and penalties. Overclaiming is stealing from honest taxpayers. Own up and suck it up.

Wesser

You're the Langer Charlie!!!

nelly17

You cant fix asshole, unless you're a proctologist - which hes not or he would not have over declared his medical expenses

Mongfinder General

killbillvol2 wrote: »

Your first three sentences were making sense. The rest of your post is nonsense.

Nonsense is it? https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/revenue-given-significant-new-powers-to-tackle-tax-evaders-1.2401601%3fmode=amp

xabi

Charlie George wrote: »

What a langer.

Cork langer, that's what you are, pay the fine with interest and learn from it.

barneystinson

Mongfinder General wrote: »

Nonsense is it? https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/revenue-given-significant-new-powers-to-tackle-tax-evaders-1.2401601%3fmode=amp

Yeah, Revenue are going to spend thousands of euros drafting and taking the necessary legal steps to compel Boards to identify someone who may have slightly overstated their medical expenses...:rolleyes:

martingriff

barneystinson wrote: »

Yeah, Revenue are going to spend thousands of euros drafting and taking the necessary legal steps to compel Boards to identify someone who may have slightly overstated their medical expenses...:rolleyes:

The Niall Boylan Show be up in court every second day

BAAA RAM EWE

OP just needs to tell revenue he's a banker and that'll be the end of it.

killbillvol2

Mongfinder General wrote: »

Nonsense is it? https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/revenue-given-significant-new-powers-to-tackle-tax-evaders-1.2401601%3fmode=amp

Maybe you could point out to us all where in that article it mentions boards having an obligation to report this master criminal?

Or indeed where it mentions Revenue having a unit designated to monitor message boards for such major criminals and track them down using their IP address.

Did you even read the article?

I repeat, you're talking nonsense.

tomwaits48

killbillvol2 wrote: »

Maybe you could point out to us all where in that article it mentions boards having an obligation to report this master criminal?

Or indeed where it mentions Revenue having a unit designated to monitor message boards for such major criminals and track them down using their IP address.

Did you even read the article?

I repeat, you're talking nonsense.

you are extremely naive if you don't think revenue use social media to identify fraudsters.

Mongfinder General

killbillvol2 wrote: »

Maybe you could point out to us all where in that article it mentions boards having an obligation to report this master criminal?

Or indeed where it mentions Revenue having a unit designated to monitor message boards for such major criminals and track them down using their IP address.

Did you even read the article?

I repeat, you're talking nonsense.

Keep repeating yourself so if it makes you feel better. Did you read the article? There is reference made to third parties. Focus on that part. You might then parse the relevant legislation for powers and enabling provisions that Revenue can use. And before you ask, look it up yourself.

As for reporting the OP, there is a probable duty under section 19 of the Criminal Justice Act, 2011.

Independent monitoring unit? This genius has already revealed the period he is being audited for. And I'd say he/she got the letter recently so Revenue could narrow it down pretty quickly.