Nissan Qashqai sump plug location

kormak

Went to service my 07 Nissan Qashqai diesel yesterday. First time I had ever done that model tbh. Got down underneath to locate the sump and couldn't find it!! I found what I believe was the sump plug covered in a grey silicone type sealant. scraped it off and tried to remove it, but it was circular and couldn't be removed by a socket. tried several allen keys within the square area and again no joy.
Can someone confirm if this is indeed the sump plug or am I looking in the wrong place? I searched everywhere else and cannot locate it.

https://1drv.ms/i/s!AoOgIQRMokMFgupQeZ07uWR-dGgokw

hi5

It's a square plug, Halfords do them...

http://www.halfords.ie/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/SearchRouter?srch=drain+plug&action=search&storeId=11101&catalogId=15551&langId=-1

kormak

thanks! i literally just spotted this online....
would the 8mm do the Qashqai?

hi5

I dont know the size, they normally measure from flat to flat, I'd be weary of that silicone, is it seeping?

Del2005

Keep an eye out in Lidl for their Oil Suction Pump. Used it on my car last time and it drained every drop out, had to lift the car to get the oil filter so popped the sump bung off to see how good the pump was and well impressed.

jca

If you're stuck the square shaft from a door lock will fit perfectly. I wonder what the silicone is doing there?

Autochange

Del2005 wrote: »

Keep an eye out in Lidl for their Oil Suction Pump. Used it on my car last time and it drained every drop out, had to lift the car to get the oil filter so popped the sump bung off to see how good the pump was and well impressed.

the pump will leave bits of swarf and fillings still in the engine. this is not good and is a lazy way to service a car. The oil needs to be dropped and allowed drain

Del2005

Autochange wrote: »

the pump will leave bits of swarf and fillings still in the engine. this is not good and is a lazy way to service a car. The oil needs to be dropped and allowed drain

I've never had swarf attached to any sump plug I've removed so it's not an issue.

JohnBoy26

Autochange wrote: »

the pump will leave bits of swarf and fillings still in the engine. this is not good and is a lazy way to service a car. The oil needs to be dropped and allowed drain

Draining the oil won't solve that problem either because there will always be some bit of oil left over in the sump no matter what method you use. The only way to completely clean the sump of contaminants is to remove the sump and clean it.

jca

Del2005 wrote: »

I've never had swarf attached to any sump plug I've removed so it's not an issue.

Swarf (which isn't really the correct term) in an engine isn't magnetic it's mainly composed of white metal bearing material.

Del2005

jca wrote: »

Swarf (which isn't really the correct term) in an engine isn't magnetic it's mainly composed of white metal bearing material.

I know what it is and what contaminated oil looks like.

jca

Del2005 wrote: »

I know what it is and what contaminated oil looks like.

Do you? Why are you misinforming people then? Any fool knows that sludge lies at the bottom of the sump, sucking the oil out with a vacuum pump leaves the sludge behind. Next time you change the oil using Lidl products drop the sump and see what's left behind.

corglass

Autochange wrote: »

Del2005 wrote: »

Keep an eye out in Lidl for their Oil Suction Pump. Used it on my car last time and it drained every drop out, had to lift the car to get the oil filter so popped the sump bung off to see how good the pump was and well impressed.

the pump will leave bits of swarf and fillings still in the engine. this is not good and is a lazy way to service a car. The oil needs to be dropped and allowed drain

The pump is fine for regular (sub 100k) cars.

Do you really think main dealers remove the sump nut every time?

Del2005

jca wrote: »

Do you? Why are you misinforming people then? Any fool knows that sludge lies at the bottom of the sump, sucking the oil out with a vacuum pump leaves the sludge behind. Next time you change the oil using Lidl products drop the sump and see what's left behind.

Did you miss the bit where I said that not a drop came out of the sump when I removed the plug? So unless you are dropping the sump instead of removing the plug during a service then the whatever the pump missed is still in the engine and I don't know of any places which drop the sump when doing a service.

What cars are people driving that have sludge and bits of their engine in the oil?

Esel

jca wrote: »

Do you? Why are you misinforming people then? Any fool knows that sludge lies at the bottom of the sump, sucking the oil out with a vacuum pump leaves the sludge behind. Next time you change the oil using Lidl products drop the sump and see what's left behind.

Is it only Lidl products that leave stuff behind then?

I say suck it and see.

Toyotafanboi

corglass wrote: »

Do you really think main dealers remove the sump nut every time?

Yes.

Autochange

corglass wrote: »

The pump is fine for regular (sub 100k) cars.

Do you really think main dealers remove the sump nut every time?

Yes 100% .

Autochange

suck it up through the hose if you wish but know you are not doing the job correctly. Sump bung is there for a reason. Do you change coolant and brake fluid at the recommended intervals or just top them up? Just wondering

JohnBoy26

jca wrote: »

Do you? Why are you misinforming people then? Any fool knows that sludge lies at the bottom of the sump, sucking the oil out with a vacuum pump leaves the sludge behind. Next time you change the oil using Lidl products drop the sump and see what's left behind.

In fairness sludge at the bottom of the sump will not drain out either in most cases.

Bazzy

I know of a main dealers for a high end marque that "Dont open the sump everytime and use the suction method"

SuperS54

Off topic and not wishing to enter the fray but there are cars which have no sump plug, the manufacturers specify the suction method.

kormak

Wow! kicked off a bit of a debate
I was thinking of vacuum pumping it out... for the simple reason is i'm dubious of that sealant around it. It's not seeping, but if i go at it, am I going to find that the sump is cross threaded?! it's a 10 year old car so it's nearly 200k +!
Any other car I would happily unscrew the sump plug and drain properly but am I asking for trouble in this instance?

Special Circumstances

kormak wrote: »

Wow! kicked off a bit of a debate
I was thinking of vacuum pumping it out... for the simple reason is i'm dubious of that sealant around it. It's not seeping, but if i go at it, am I going to find that the sump is cross threaded?! it's a 10 year old car so it's nearly 200k +!
Any other car I would happily unscrew the sump plug and drain properly but am I asking for trouble in this instance?

I think you're right to be wary.
My version of this? I should have known better when I saw the winding of PTFE tape and lashings of plumbers hemp round the thread. Thought it was making up for a dodgy seal on the integrated washer.
Grand says I, sure I have a brand spanking new bolt/washer here......

The sump had already been re-tapped to within an inch of its life and when I put the original OEM sized bolt in there it threaded in alright but made bits of the weak threads that were there for a bigger bolt.
A great mornings work....:o:mad::rolleyes: