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Fanon, Honderich, Walzer

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  • 13-07-2017 11:24pm
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    Just to try to rescue the relevance of this in this forum, perhaps this could be a starting point for a discussion of Fanon, Honderich, Walzer and others who have worked on the ethics of the use of violence...


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    Ted Honderich was a radical political philosopher. Raised controversial arguments regarding inequality and active measures to mitigate inequality. Explored when political violence may be ethically justified. Examined conditions and contexts. Ref: Ted Honderich (2003), Terrorism for Humanity; London: Pluto Press.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,220 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Strict causality and hard determinism has been advocated by Ted Honderich, such that human behaviour was a consequence of antecedent conditions. When all necessary conditions were present they became sufficient for a behaviour to occur. This position has been challenged by the notion that the universe (including human behavior) was indeterministic, where one or more "necessary conditions" may be absent from the deterministic causal chain, yet the behaviour may still occur (or not occur).

    Inequality was the result of necessary and sufficient conditions per Honderich.


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    Black Swan wrote: »
    When all necessary conditions were present they became sufficient for a behaviour to occur. Inequality was the result of necessary and sufficient conditions per Honderich.
    Alternatively labeled adequate determinism?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,220 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Fathom wrote: »
    Alternatively labeled adequate determinism?
    "When all necessary conditions were present they became sufficient for a behaviour to occur." Methinks that would be one definition of "adequate determinism."


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    Adequate determinism. Abstract theoretical concept. Allows for logical and mathematical methods. Like differential equations. Like statistics for estimating parameters of populations.


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