Cheap 2nd tractor ?

Feckoffcup

Looking for a cheap 80-100hp tractor to lessen the work load on our main tractor. Not fussed about the spec inside or out. Work will include fertiliser,linkbox, light trailer, power washer etc (nothing hard ).

Farmer_3650

Some of them older Case tractors (e.g 4240, 856) aren't too dear. You'd get a decent one for 8000. I wouldn't be a zetor fan but the crystal wasn't a bad yoke. I know a lad who had one and he sold it about a year ago. It was fairly rough now but mechanically 100% and sold it for 3,500. I've seen some selling for even less than that.
However do you need a tractor that powerful for the type of work it would be doing?

kerry cow

Zetor were chap when new never mind second hand one hand .what a heap of x Russian engineering .

White Clover

kerry cow wrote: »

Zetor were chap when new never mind sending one hand .what a heap of x Russian engineering .

What model did you have?

Sam Kade

Feckoffcup wrote: »

Work will include fertiliser,linkbox, light trailer, power washer etc (nothing hard ).

Farmer_3650 wrote: »

However do you need a tractor that powerful for the type of work it would be doing?

A 65-75hp tractor would do fine unless it's a one tonne fertilizer spreader.

Feckoffcup

I would still prefer that little extra power, it does come in handy if it had to do heavier work if another tractor broke down.

Sam Kade

110n hp won't break the bank


https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/lamborghini-1106/15402200

MickeyShtyles

Reggie will have one for sale fairly shortly....

cacs

Feckoffcup wrote: »

Looking for a cheap 80-100hp tractor to lessen the work load on our main tractor. Not fussed about the spec inside or out. Work will include fertiliser,linkbox, light trailer, power washer etc (nothing hard ).

I thought this was a clean tractor for the money

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/massey-ferguson-265/15627688

White Clover

265 are a great little tractor, I'm fairly sure they have the bomb-proof 236 Perkins engine in them whereas the 290 has the Perkins 248.

Farmer_3650

I have a MF265 and I have to say it is a serious tractor. I don't know if there is much difference between it and a 290 other than power. That 265 on Donedeal seems fairly cheap compared to what they would usually sell for. Be worth having a look at

emaherx

Farmer_3650 wrote: »

I have a MF265 and I have to say it is a serious tractor. I don't know if there is much difference between it and a 290 other than power. That 265 on Donedeal seems fairly cheap compared to what they would usually sell for. Be worth having a look at

But not if your looking for a cheap 80 to 100 hp tractor.

MF290

https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/tractor/15269209

doesn't seem bad value

Feckoffcup

Mf 390 can fetch £13/14k which is crazy for the hp and age.

joeyboy12345

Just had a read through this and curiousoty led me to have a look at their website, looks like thats a spot you could pick up a real high hp bargain. Has anyone gone this route before? Youd want to know your machinery mind you!

joeyboy12345

Trying to link the agriland story about the cheffins auction in cambridge but cant, looks some good value there!

ganmo

The fast track with the loader looked strange

joeyboy12345

ganmo wrote:

The fast track with the loader looked strange

Can you link up the article ganmo! Yea strange but very cool!the english definatly have better kit than us, granted their farms would be on a bigger scale than ours to match!

ganmo

http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/auction-report-tractors-galore-at-this-months-busy-cambridge-sale/

joeyboy12345

The likes of the 7840 at under 8k is very good value,depending on condition of course!it looks in reasonable condition!

croot

joeyboy12345 wrote: »

Just had a read through this and curiousoty led me to have a look at their website, looks like thats a spot you could pick up a real high hp bargain. Has anyone gone this route before? Youd want to know your machinery mind you!

Fultons? I looked at a tractor from them in 08. It was a NH t115 but when I took it out for a run it stopped in the middle of the road about a half mile out. That put me off the tractor but the man himself seemed ok and his yard is full of tractors so plenty of choice. You would want someone who knew their stuff though cause a lot of machines in these type of dealers are picked up at auctions in England and might not be checked over to well.

joeyboy12345

croot wrote:

Fultons? I looked at a tractor from them in 08. It was a NH t115 but when I took it out for a run it stopped in the middle of the road about a half mile out. That put me off the tractor but the man himself seemed ok and his yard is full of tractors so plenty of choice. You would want someone who knew their stuff though cause a lot of machines in these type of dealers are picked up at auctions in England and might not be checked over to well.

Are you allowed take them for a spin?chefins i think is their name, youd often see a report in the farmers journal from their vintage sales

MF290

joeyboy12345 wrote: »

Are you allowed take them for a spin?chefins i think is their name, youd often see a report in the farmers journal from their vintage sales

You can take stuff for a spin on the Sunday before I think. Went for a gawk to the ely one last year. Most of the stuff was fairly rough around the edges. I'd say you could get value if you knew what to look out for.

joeyboy12345

Do they post what machinery made on their website? Also do you know the reserve before the auction on each item?

Bullocks

Sam Kade wrote: »

110n hp won't break the bank


https://www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/lamborghini-1106/15402200

I think thats great value there

Belongamick

http://www.agriaffaires.co.uk/

Farmer_3650

Is cheffins a one day event or does it go on for a few days? I've often thought about going over there, seems to be fairly cheap too.

Farmer

Farmer_3650 wrote: »

Is cheffins a one day event or does it go on for a few days? I've often thought about going over there, seems to be fairly cheap too.

Seems a crazy commission

"How Much Will You Pay?
If you are successful you will pay the hammer price plus buyer’s premium on each lot, this is charged at 22.5% + VAT (27%) of the hammer price. We will email you an invoice post sale with details on how to pay, or you can click here to make a secure payment online now."

http://www.cheffins.co.uk/auctions/fine-art/buying-and-selling/buying/a-buyers-guide

ganmo

Farmer wrote: »

Seems a crazy commission

"How Much Will You Pay?
If you are successful you will pay the hammer price plus buyer’s premium on each lot, this is charged at 22.5% + VAT (27%) of the hammer price. We will email you an invoice post sale with details on how to pay, or you can click here to make a secure payment online now."

http://www.cheffins.co.uk/auctions/fine-art/buying-and-selling/buying/a-buyers-guide

sweet Jesus that's a heafty commission

joeyboy12345

Farmer wrote:

Seems a crazy commission

Farmer wrote:

"How Much Will You Pay? If you are successful you will pay the hammer price plus buyer’s premium on each lot, this is charged at 22.5% + VAT (27%) of the hammer price. We will email you an invoice post sale with details on how to pay, or you can click here to make a secure payment online now."

That does seem tricky!

amacca

Then you'd have to get it transported....over here and to your place on top of that

croot

joeyboy12345 wrote: »

Are you allowed take them for a spin?chefins i think is their name, youd often see a report in the farmers journal from their vintage sales

Sorry I thought you were on about Howard fultons in Derry from the post about the fiat tractor in the previous post. It's a garage that buys from auctions not an auction itself.

Farmer

I think I got the commission figure from an incorrect link, possibly for some other auction type. This seems to be the machinery one. It looks like you pay VAT at 20% on the hammer price plus the following commission (Tractors are Class 1)

COMMISSION
2.1 Vendor shall pay Commission to the Auctioneers at the following rates:-
Class 1 (see definition in 2.5 below) 5% plus VAT of the total selling price (exclusive of VAT) of each Lot
Class 2 (see definitions in 2.5 below) 7.5% plus VAT of the total selling price (exclusive of VAT) of each Lot.
2.2 Commission charges will be subject to a minimum and maximum as follows:-
Class 1 (see definition in 2.5 below) minimum £50 maximum £600
Class 2 (see definition in 2.5 below) minimum £5 maximum £600
2.3 VAT at the standard rate will be charged on all commissions.
2.4 Commission at the rate specified in Clause 2.1 above together with the Entry Fees as specified in Clause 3 below shall be Payable by the Vendor on all Lots sold privately at the Saleground.
2.5 Definitions:
Class 1 items: Tractors, Excavators, Loading Shovels, Telescopic Handlers, Forklift Trucks, Bulldozers, Cranes, Dumpers, Combine Harvesters, Self-Propelled Sugar Beet and Potato Harvesters, and Self-Propelled Sprayers.
Class 2 items: All other items.

Source: Under "Conditions of Sale" at the following page

http://www.cheffins.co.uk/auctions/cambridge-machinery-sales/entry-form