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Advised to see eye specialist

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  • 12-07-2017 1:42am
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    KwackerJack
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    I have passed my class 2 and the doc said the class one should be fine. However he wants me to see an eye specialist as I had Cornal Cross Linking on my left eye at the Eye & Ear.

    My local Spec Savers and the E&E said my eye sight is fine for a Pilot and Gardai so I am wondering why I need to see a specialist?

    Any pilots here with this experience?


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    faoiarvok
    Registered Users Posts: 644 ✭✭✭faoiarvok


    KwackerJack wrote: »
    I have passed my class 2 and the doc said the class one should be fine. However he wants me to see an eye specialist as I had Cornal Cross Linking on my left eye at the Eye & Ear.

    My local Spec Savers and the E&E said my eye sight is fine for a Pilot and Gardai so I am wondering why I need to see a specialist?

    Any pilots here with this experience?

    I'd certainly trust the Aeromedical Examiner over Specsavers, though maybe not over the Eye & Ear.

    I don't know the details of your previous tests, but it's possible the AME has a question over a physiological symptom related to your eyes, not necessarily the quality of your eyesight, if you understand what I mean.


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    Dingle_berry
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    It's probably the underlying pathology rather than the treatment procedure. If there is a risk of double vision or impaired vision it will be awkward to get a class one med.


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    KwackerJack
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    The quality of my eyesight is fine. During the class 2 eye test I was fine without my glassed so at least thats not a worry. I do wear glassed but funnily enough I can fly without wearing them and never have an issue spotting other aircraft etc yet I would feel more comfortable wearing them for driving.

    I was told that approx 7-1o years ago the Cross linking op would have been a big no no for pilots. Why thats has changed I am not sure, maybe they realise its not an issue in the long term.


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    martinsvi
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    Are you asking because you just want to be sure you're 100% before doing class 1? if so, Charter Medical outsource their eye tests to Ranelagh Eye Clinic, why not pay them a visit, tell them why are you there and see if there's any issues. Eye test for Class 1 is much different and much more detailed than it is for class 2 or anything that spec savers could do in a shop. If I remember correctly I had to put my head in some 4 or 5 devices, I was there for nearly two hours doing different checks just to get all clear.. (and that is with me having perfect vision, not needing any glasses)

    But if I was you, I would just go and do the whole Class 1 and see what happens. You might be focusing on your eyes but could fail on something unrelated, you never know. Better go and get it done before spending any money, if the dream is to go commercial

    EDIT: if the goal is not to go commercial, the typical worries associated with eye surgeries is to develop side effects such as glaring or starbursts. Also some difficulty with night vision etc. You might not know the problem exist until conditions are just right


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    KwackerJack
    Registered Users Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭KwackerJack


    I have been in touch with Ranelagh Eye Clinic and I am awaiting an appointment.

    I do intend to go Commercial hence my want to get my eyes checked before I even do the class one!!

    Seems by your experience the eye test is pretty comprehensive


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    Dingle_berry
    Registered Users Posts: 885 ✭✭✭Dingle_berry


    KwackerJack wrote: »
    The quality of my eyesight is fine. During the class 2 eye test I was fine without my glassed so at least thats not a worry. I do wear glassed but funnily enough I can fly without wearing them and never have an issue spotting other aircraft etc yet I would feel more comfortable wearing them for driving.

    I was told that approx 7-1o years ago the Cross linking op would have been a big no no for pilots. Why thats has changed I am not sure, maybe they realise its not an issue in the long term.

    As you know there's a lot more to eyesight than spectacles. Not all of it is well defined in the medical requirements for a class one. E.g. "normal binocular function" - irish ophthalmologists exclude anyone with any degree of tropia/phoria based on this phrase. No.examination, no appeal, no discussion. And they refuse to define what normality is. However the CAA will pass people who have long standing tropias that have never caused double vision. People that have failed the class one in Ireland but passed in the UK can then transfer their CAA class one back to the IAA and have no issues with re-certification.

    You had the procedure in RVEEH for some underlying condition. That condition (not just the need for spectacles) could cause an ophthalmologist to deny you a class one. Only way to know (if it's not specifically mentioned in the part med.) Is to try the two irish ophthalmologists that do aeromedical testing.


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    KwackerJack
    Registered Users Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭KwackerJack


    Dingle_berry wrote: »
    As you know there's a lot more to eyesight than spectacles. Not all of it is well defined in the medical requirements for a class one. E.g. "normal binocular function" - irish ophthalmologists exclude anyone with any degree of tropia/phoria based on this phrase. No.examination, no appeal, no discussion. And they refuse to define what normality is. However the CAA will pass people who have long standing tropias that have never caused double vision. People that have failed the class one in Ireland but passed in the UK can then transfer their CAA class one back to the IAA and have no issues with re-certification.

    You had the procedure in RVEEH for some underlying condition. That condition (not just the need for spectacles) could cause an ophthalmologist to deny you a class one. Only way to know (if it's not specifically mentioned in the part med.) Is to try the two irish ophthalmologists that do aeromedical testing.

    Will ireland ever change!!

    I definitely do not have double vision.....not as far as I can see ( no pun intended )

    I suppose all I can do is go for the test and see what the outcome is.

    A trip to the UK could be needed


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    donkey balls
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    The class 2 eyesight exam is totally different to the class 1, I went down on the class 1 eye test 10 year ago, I was actually shocked that I failed the eye sight test as throughout my career I would have done numerous medicals including eye sight tests.
    The AME told me to get glasses to see if it brought my sight up I also asked about laser eye and was told it was a no go, imo you be better to do the full class 1 med and see if there is any other issues.


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