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Diesel dips

  • 11-07-2017 9:22pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭


    Hello everyone just got myself a van never drove diesels before just wondering has anyone any helpful info about diesels... if heard that you have to leave the glow plugs heat for a few seconds before starting diesels all stuff like that and about turbo that you must let the car idle for a little before you turn it off to not flood the turbo with oil ? Not really sure don't have a clue about diesels any tips would be really appreciated thanks :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    When starting, turn the key till the second position and wait for the glow plug light to go out (normally 10-15 seconds) before turning to start.

    Wait about 30 seconds when starting off before moving the van to allow the oil to circulate , don't work the engine hard till it warms up and when stopping give the engine 30 seconds to idle before stopping it. Also check the oil level every week. Older diesels will use a bit of oil.

    This is just kind of basic best practice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,544 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    The glow plug thing will depend lon the model of van, some pre heat once you open the door or unlock.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    When starting, turn the key till the second position and wait for the glow plug light to go out (normally 10-15 seconds) before turning to start.

    In the 1980's in a Mk3 Escort on a winter's morning.

    Virtually every diesel designed in the last two decades should start from cold at the turn of the key the same as a perrol unless in sub zero conditions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭Jayjay2424


    When starting, turn the key till the second position and wait for the glow plug light to go out (normally 10-15 seconds) before turning to start.

    Wait about 30 seconds when starting off before moving the van to allow the oil to circulate , don't work the engine hard till it warms up and when stopping give the engine 30 seconds to idle before stopping it. Also check the oil level every week. Older diesels will use a bit of oil.

    This is just kind of basic best practice.
    Ya the glow plugs light goes out pretty fast so I reckon they heat up pretty quick.. il take in that tip also didn't know about waiting a bit for oil to circulate. And I never really push it unless going up a hill so should be good there :) il also let it idle a bit and it's all full serviced so I don't need to worry about oil for a bit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    In the 1980's in a Mk3 Escort on a winter's morning.

    Virtually every diesel designed in the last two decades should start from cold at the turn of the key the same as a perrol unless in sub zero conditions.

    A lot of vans Vans have a lot more in common with that escort than your modern car diesel.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    A lot of vans Vans have a lot more in common with that escort than your modern car diesel.

    I'm struggling to think of one but I could be wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    I'm struggling to think of one but I could be wrong.

    Those new LDV chinese rebrand vans
    Transits up to about 07
    The peugeot partner / citroen berlingo pre the 1.6 hdi

    Those are just off the top of my head , have been in all of them where people used to petrols just turn the key and it takes a lot longer to crank over or needs a second attempt. Glow plug lights only stay lit for about 8 seconds max anyway, hardly going to kill anyone to just leave the engine do what its properly designed to do. Might cause problems if people just keep turning the key


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 360 ✭✭bitburger


    On my 04 Doblo, it is quite a bit harder to start if you just go at it without heating the glowplugs first.

    It still starts, but definitely takes a bit more effort and sometimes on a cold morning would want that second heating before it starts up properly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,323 ✭✭✭mikeecho


    In the 1980's in a Mk3 Escort on a winter's morning.

    Virtually every diesel designed in the last two decades should start from cold at the turn of the key the same as a perrol unless in sub zero conditions.

    my bmw 520d will onn a cold morn, say, "warning glow plugs" or similar when you first press "Start" , i wait until this light goes out, then switch off/on , wait for "warming glow plugs" a second time, then start.

    then idle for 30 sec before driving gently for the first few minutes, and not flooring it for at lease 10 min.

    but then.. i change oil and filter at half intervals, and actually do have the car maintained, and not wait till the NCT to lash in a bottle of Dipetane.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,683 ✭✭✭honda boi


    My 04 ford cmax 1.6 tdci the glow plug symbol barely comes on even on cold mornings/ nights .
    If it comes on its only for a split second. Starts perfect the whole time.
    First diesel I've seen that the symbol doesn't stay on for a few seconds


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    In the 1980's in a Mk3 Escort on a winter's morning.

    Virtually every diesel designed in the last two decades should start from cold at the turn of the key the same as a perrol unless in sub zero conditions.

    This is just not true, some cars like the last generation mazda 626 had direct injection and would start at the turn of the key but many other diesels need heat and some a lot more modern than you think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,544 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Those new LDV chinese rebrand vans
    Transits up to about 07
    The peugeot partner / citroen berlingo pre the 1.6 hdi

    Those are just off the top of my head , have been in all of them where people used to petrols just turn the key and it takes a lot longer to crank over or needs a second attempt. Glow plug lights only stay lit for about 8 seconds max anyway, hardly going to kill anyone to just leave the engine do what its properly designed to do. Might cause problems if people just keep turning the key

    The new LDVs like the post office use has a modern but noisy engine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,529 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    honda boi wrote: »
    My 04 ford cmax 1.6 tdci the glow plug symbol barely comes on even on cold mornings/ nights .
    If it comes on its only for a split second. Starts perfect the whole time.
    First diesel I've seen that the symbol doesn't stay on for a few seconds

    Same as on my old C-Max. It was so quick I didn't even know it had a glow plug light until we had a really cold snap a year after I bought it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭Jayjay2424


    Thanks for all the tips anyway will help to preserve the life of engine in someway... what I'm just most curious about it the turbo gives a tiny whistle between 1500 - 2000 rpm was told it's normal but I'm a complete numpty with vehicles I will leave a link down below and can hear the sound it's towards the end of the video when he revs the van dealer gave me 3 months warranty so wound he try screw me over with bad turbo in the van ?


    This is the video https://youtu.be/mvhf12GOdgo


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 390 ✭✭mossy50


    indirect injection needs warming direct injection doesn't


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭Jayjay2424


    mossy50 wrote: »
    indirect injection needs warming direct injection doesn't
    What do you mean by that I don't have a clue about cars 😂


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