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Dental surgery offering cosmetic procedures

  • 11-07-2017 8:58am
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,926 ✭✭✭davo10


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    I notice my local dental practice is now offering "anti wrinkle" treatments.

    It seems unusual to me, surely dentists should worry about dentistry, and cosmetic surgeons/consultants should worry about anti wrinkle treatments?

    What do others think?

    Personally I don't think either should "worry" about aging treatments, but patients should worry about who is providing it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,926 ✭✭✭davo10


    If you only want to go to a dentist who drills and fills teeth, then so be it, there are plenty about. But many dentists are now investing time and effort to offer non routine treatments like implants and "anti ageing" treatments. More power to them, it's an extra string to their bow and no doubt a lucrative string. But if you don't feel comfortable receiving dental treatments in such clinics, then you simply need to go to one which doesn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,637 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


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    cosmetic surgeon is not a recognised medical specialty. Pretty much any doctor can describe themselves as cosmetic surgeons. What you should be looking for are plastic surgeons.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,926 ✭✭✭davo10


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    Well apologies if I did not use the correct terminology - but I think the point I am making is clear though is it not?

    Wouldnt you prefer to visit the relevant specialist in something than have someone who is doing it as a sideline treat you?

    Would you not consider Botox a sideline for a "cosmetic surgeon"?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,926 ✭✭✭davo10


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    Would they be insured to carry out such treatments?

    Yip, it's pricey but it's covered by indemnity insurance.

    I really don't see what your problem is here. Are you saying dentists shouldn't be licensed to do this even though they are qualified to do so, or are you saying you don't want to go to a dentist who provides additional cosmetic treatments?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,900 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


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    But does the dentist administer these or does someone else come in to the surgery?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭Dianthus


    It's entirely up to you, the patient, who you want to see for matters dental or matters cosmetic.
    Once the practitioner in both cases is transparent as regards their qualifications& training& experience, & they are indemnified, the choice to have treatment with them or not is entirely yours. Like how some patients prefer to see a prosthodontist versus a general dentist.
    Or some parents send their children to a paediatric dentist versus a general dentist. All depends.
    Lots of beauticians& GPs provide cosmetic treatment. Treating teeth alone, dentists would generally have thousands of hours experience with using fine needles & working to a high aesthetic standard. Are dentists meant to have no other interest in the human body outside of teeth? ;)
    A colleague of mine has provided Botox& fillers for about a decade. A lot of patients tend to attend with a magnifying mirror, & point to non-existent frown lines. Demands & expectations are far higher than any those patients being treated for disease/health. So it's certainly not what I'd consider easy money;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,926 ✭✭✭davo10


    Riskymove wrote: »
    But does the dentist administer these or does someone else come in to the surgery?

    Depends, some dentists train to provide Botox, others bring demataologists/plastic surgeons in to their clinics. Usually depends on volume of patients.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭gizmo81


    A lot of plastic surgeons are hand and wrist surgeons too.

    Being multi-skilled isn't a disadvantage.

    What worries me is beauticians offering these cosmetic procedures including cosmetic dentistry.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 619 ✭✭✭NinetyTwoTeam


    It would turn me off a bit because it would likely foreshadow that you would get the 'hard sell' on things like whitening treatments, etc. Had a dentist try that before and I never went back, I'm there to keep my mouth healthy and pain free, that's all. I don't want my dentist to be like a car salesman trying to sell me unnecessary coatings and whatnot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    I can see both viewpoint here. Some patients want these cosmetic proceedures. Dentists are very familiar with facial aesthetics, head and neck anatomy and are deft at operating on a conscious patient. I dont see an issue so long as they are suitably trained.

    Now if your dentist offers these treatment and you dont feel its something you feel has a place in your dental practice....change dentist. Equally patients who want these but cannot get them at their current dentist should go to a dentist that can.

    I do see a need for better regulation and qualification registration....but in dentistry that is a whole bigger issue.........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 219 ✭✭greensheep777


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    Probably because it's against the law to practise dentistry without a license.

    I don't see what the big problem is. If you don't want to go to a dentist for cosmetic procedures, don't. A lot of people go to the dentist for cosmetic dentistry, they might want some bigger lips as the cherry on the cake beside their new teeth. I have fillers already and you can bet your behind I'll be getting more once I finish the orthodontic treatment I'm starting soon!

    I go to a doctor for my lip fillers. She's an ex-GP who presumably got tired of listening to people moaning about being sick all the time. That, or people moaning about how much she charges all the time (which will sound familiar to dentists, no wonder some of them are branching out).

    I go to her because
    1. her work is excellent. I'm my own worst critic and when I look in the mirror I see lips, not fillers. People make negative remarks about lip fillers in front of me not knowing I have them.

    2. She's a doctor so is highly trained in injecting, and can take care of me if I faint or whatever (not great with needles).

    There isn't a hope I'd go to a beautician. They just don't have the qualifications or education for me to trust them with putting expensive needles in my face (even if many of their prices for fillers are not very expensive). I've also seen too many absolutely shocking results coming from them (it's evident that the Hippocratic Oath doesn't apply to them).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 Marymoore44


    Nowadays dentists offers plastic surgeries after accidents.Dentists may be able to provide cosmetic surgeries.


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