Which Passat?

dball

I'm looking at buying a 2nd hand car and these 2 passats have low mileage and are similar,
Would anyone advise one over the other, I'm not too sure what bluemotion is and to have a 6 speed gearbox - is there any advantage to this - would it be less or more economical with regards to fuel?

http://www.autopointmotorgroup.com/used-cars/Volkswagen/Passat/1.6-TDI/6242321120206391084/

http://www.mcelligotthonda.ie/used-cars/Volkswagen/Passat/HL-1.6TDI/2209729954266233862/

Also is the 105 BHP - a higher than standard spec - therefore a costly fuel expense?

GustavoFring

The 105bhp one is the lowest power diesel. The six speed box should in theory increase economy at higher speeds.

Of those two the highline one is a much higher spec even if a year older. There is also a 2 litre 6 speed available which may be a better option if you regularly travel with the car fully loaded.

bazz26

The first one is a UK import, Bluemotion technology is VW talk for more fuel efficient model with the likes of stop/start, slightly better aerodynamics, 6 speed gearbox, etc all designed to make the car slightly more fuel efficient. It was also a trim level in the UK that was very similar to a baseline model. The poor spec wouldn't appeal to me to be honest.

The second one is an Irish Highline model which has more toys than the UK model. It also too has bluemotion technology in that it has start/stop, regenerative brakes, etc. Still would have the 5 speed gearbox though. 105bhp is the brake horse power of the 1.6 TDi engine in both cars. Personally if you can find a 2.0 TDi Highline that would be superior to the 1.6 which is sluggish in a car that size.

dball

If i can live with Sluggish surely i'm saving in fuel costs??.
Is a 2.0L more economical - could it be?

We cover a lot of mileage every day and its a big factor/ i've been looking at Electric cars too but I cant bring myself to buy a second hand EV.

bazz26

Not really, more sluggish engine means it's under more strain to pull the body around which means it needs to use more fuel. A bigger engine will have less issue with strain so will be more efficient. If you're doing frequent motorway driving or have the car loaded then the 2.0 litre is much better option, this being Ireland though there are far more choice in 1.6 litre than 2.0 litre.

Idbatterim

if cost of fuel is of utmost concern, why not get electric? its way cheaper than diesel... youd get a second generation leaf for your budget

dball

its mainly rural driving, not too many motorway trips.
Never loaded either - maybe one or 2 children -

dball

dball wrote: »

If i can live with Sluggish surely i'm saving in fuel costs??.
Is a 2.0L more economical - could it be?...............

Generally in a car the size of a PAssat the 2.0 won't be heavier on fuel overall and if anything could be more economical.

A far more pleasant drive too.

mossy50

hi we bought a UK 132 vw Passat 1.6 tdi bluemotion S in april it had 75000 miles for 11500euro basic car 6 speed box and does a grand job 57mpg average shes got DAB radio, Bluetooth, Media In, alloys, tyre pressure warning sensors etc etc

Audioslaven

dball wrote: »

its mainly rural driving, not too many motorway trips.
Never loaded either - maybe one or 2 children -

1.6 is a waste of time in a car that size. You will feel it more on country road rather than motorway as you will be over taking etc. I had a 1.6 in a Citroen and it just didn't have the acceleration. On the motorway it was fine, once you got the revs up it cruised away.

Also, if you have just two kids, you will get a better wagon for the money rather than a passat.

Stallingrad

First question I'd be asking with any 2nd hand VW is about the software 'fix'. If it has had it done I would walk away.

Toyotafanboi

Stallingrad wrote: »

First question I'd be asking with any 2nd hand VW is about the software 'fix'. If it has had it done I would walk away.

That's a bit knee jerk. You'd be walking away from over 50% of the market.

To be fair, if the car drives ok, it is ok.

Stallingrad

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

To be fair, if the car drives ok, it is ok.

Until its not, and there is more and more evidence of people having issues post fix. I wouldn't risk it myself.

Toyotafanboi

Stallingrad wrote: »

Until its not, and there is more and more evidence of people having issues post fix. I wouldn't risk it myself.

Well any car is ok until it's not.

I don't think that a post AE189 updated car is really much more of a risk than a pre updated car tbh.

In my own opinion I wouldn't let a car having had the repair done put me off buying it if it passed all the other standard used car checks.

Audioslaven

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

Well any car is ok until it's not.

I don't think that a post AE189 updated car is really much more of a risk than a pre updated car tbh.

In my own opinion I wouldn't let a car having had the repair done put me off buying it if it passed all the other standard used car checks.

Yes very true. I have a colleague who has an A6 with the patch applied and he tells me it improved his car - more economical, so it appears to be a bit of a hit and miss on the VAG patch

mossy50

Audioslaven wrote: »

1.6 is a waste of time in a car that size. You will feel it more on country road rather than motorway as you will be over taking etc. I had a 1.6 in a Citroen and it just didn't have the acceleration. On the motorway it was fine, once you got the revs up it cruised away.

Also, if you have just two kids, you will get a better wagon for the money rather than a passat.

well it suits us