Looking for a new petrol estate...

SSr0

As above, having a hard time finding an estate that has a decent petrol engine. Not really interested in these new small displacement, forced induction engines either.

Would rather stay away from Fords and Volvos as well. Budget would be €30k max.

Anyone fire some ideas at me? Thanks.

ba_barabus

Auris Hybrid Tourer?

bazz26

I think Toyota dropped the Auris Tourer, haven't seen a new one around in yonks.

Little or no normally aspired petrol estates available these days. Small capacity turbo units are all the craze now.

ba_barabus

bazz26 wrote: »

I think Toyota dropped the Auris Tourer, haven't seen a new one around in yonks.

It's still there. I was sitting in one at the factory yesterday unless they just aren't importing them here

bazz26

Probably, very slow uptake on them here.

Gravelly

Audi do the A4 Avant in both 1.4 and 2.0 petrol.

bazz26

Both are turbo charged though. I think the OP is going to have to park that restriction if they want a petrol estate in this country.

Gravelly

bazz26 wrote: »

Both are turbo charged though. I think the OP is going to have to park that restriction if they want a petrol estate in this country.

I'd read it that he only objected to small turbo engines, but you're right, hard to get any decent engine without a turbo nowadays.

Shpudnik

Megane sport tourer? Turbo but 1.6

Gravelly

Shpudnik wrote: »

Megane sport tourer? Turbo but 1.6

No offense, but ugh!

Shpudnik

Gravelly wrote: »

No offense, but ugh!

I think it's a great looking car.

CalamariFritti

F31 340i. Turbo charged but 3.0 six cylinder and the F31 is a lovely car to drive. Looks nice too.
Or the 330i with 2.0 4 cylinder.
Not cheap tho.

Gravelly

Shpudnik wrote: »

I think it's a great looking car.

They're not bad looking no, but would you want to live with one? The one misfortune I know that bought one spent more time in the Renault dealers courtesy car than he did in the Megane before he gave in and traded it.

Oafley Jones

Gravelly wrote: »

They're not bad looking no, but would you want to live with one? The one misfortune I know that bought one spent more time in the Renault dealers courtesy car than he did in the Megane before he gave in and traded it.

What year car was this?

Casati

Mazda 6 is available as 2.0 na engine and it's cheaper than the diesel too, you should get one for 30k if you can talk the dealer into ordering one.

Not sure but I'd guess Toyota still do a petrol Avensis na engine too, but they might not import it here

Gravelly

Oafley Jones wrote: »

Gravelly wrote: »

They're not bad looking no, but would you want to live with one? The one misfortune I know that bought one spent more time in the Renault dealers courtesy car than he did in the Megane before he gave in and traded it.

What year car was this?

2016

Shpudnik

Gravelly wrote: »

They're not bad looking no, but would you want to live with one? The one misfortune I know that bought one spent more time in the Renault dealers courtesy car than he did in the Megane before he gave in and traded it.

I know someone who has a new Megane and they've had no trouble with it.

Truckermal

Superb Combi Sportline with the 2.0 petrol.

Gravelly

Shpudnik wrote: »

Gravelly wrote: »

They're not bad looking no, but would you want to live with one? The one misfortune I know that bought one spent more time in the Renault dealers courtesy car than he did in the Megane before he gave in and traded it.

I know someone who has a new Megane and they've had no trouble with it.

Doubt every one of them is a lemon, but they have a well deserved reputation for fragility.

Casati

Gravelly wrote: »

Doubt every one of them is a lemon, but they have a well deserved reputation for fragility.

Not since 2009 when the previous model was launched

Casati

Truckermal wrote: »

Superb Combi Sportline with the 2.0 petrol.

If you find one for 30k let me know, priced one up online and it ran just over 50k

SSr0

Casati wrote: »

Mazda 6 is available as 2.0 na engine and it's cheaper than the diesel too, you should get one for 30k if you can talk the dealer into ordering one.

Not sure but I'd guess Toyota still do a petrol Avensis na engine too, but they might not import it here

Both the Mazda 6 and Toyota Avensis don't come with a petrol engine for their estate models.

Open also to turbocharged engines but no smaller than 1.8l? Could stretch budget to €33k.

Cheers for all the ideas.

bazz26

Honda Civic Tourer:



http://www.carsireland.ie/detail.php?ad_id=1766777&r=s.php%3Fm%5B%5D%3D32%26o%5B%5D%3D%26f%3D1%26b%3D3%26pp%3D50%26g%3D0

Old school reliable 1.8 litre engine.

AMKC

Gravelly wrote: »

They're not bad looking no, but would you want to live with one? The one misfortune I know that bought one spent more time in the Renault dealers courtesy car than he did in the Megane before he gave in and traded it.

Must have been a long time ago. Renault have changed and improved there quality and build massively since then.
Renault and Nissan are now the same cars. They use the same platforms and engines just have different skins.

I think the new Megane in any shape is very classy and there is a very comprehensive brochure for it too unlike some makes these days which either don,t have brochures or if they do they are very thin.

Gravelly

AMKC wrote: »

Gravelly wrote: »

They're not bad looking no, but would you want to live with one? The one misfortune I know that bought one spent more time in the Renault dealers courtesy car than he did in the Megane before he gave in and traded it.

Must have been a long time ago. Renault have changed and improved there quality and build massively since then.
Renault and Nissan are now the same cars. They use the same platforms and engines just have different skins.

I think the new Megane in any shape is very classy and there is a very comprehensive brochure for it too unlike some makes these days which either don,t have brochures or if they do they are very thin.

He traded it about 4 months ago! From what I've heard (I've family in the trade) Renaults are still beset by electrical woes and the diesels are troublesome. I'd rather a thin brochure and a reliable car!

bazz26

Yet people don't seem to have the same problems or stories about modern day Nissans despite using the same components for the most part. Lots of man down the pub and bar stool expert stories out there if you want to believe them.

Oafley Jones

bazz26 wrote: »

Yet people don't seem to have the same problems or stories about modern day Nissans despite using the same components for the most part. Lots of man down the pub and bar stool expert stories out there if you want to believe them.

I've said it before but asking people about Renault is a great litmus test for gauging their current knowledge of cars.

Gravelly

Great to hear Renaults are now enjoying jap levels of reliability, will have to get rid of the Audi and get myself a Laguna, if the experts say it, it must be true. All those mechanics haven't a clue what they're on about.

bazz26

Your information like your views on Renault in general seems a bit outdated as the Laguna is no longer sold in right hand drive. Also Audi are certainly no benchmark in terms of reliability, a modern day Renault would be no more unreliable than a modern day Audi but I guess everything any mechanic says is gospel.

Sexual Chocolate

SSr0 wrote: »

Both the Mazda 6 and Toyota Avensis don't come with a petrol engine for their estate models.

Open also to turbocharged engines but no smaller than 1.8l? Could stretch budget to €33k.

Cheers for all the ideas.

You've very limited opitions if any at all unless you head over across the pond.

From a quick look on Autotrader UK at some second hand cars a few options are the :

Golf, Leon or Octavia in 1.8 or 2.0 TSi

A4 Avant 1.8 or 2.0 TFSi

320i or 520i

Mazda 6 2.0 n/a (the closest to your criteria)

Avensis 1.8 Valvematic CVT

Insignia 2.0 Turbo (rare)

Mondeo or Focus in 2.0 Ecoboost which I know you wish to avoid but there are a good few of them for sale in the UK.

Prices fluctuate on many of them but for something as new as possible I doubt you'll have much change if any left from €33k after vrt and the likes.

grogi

bazz26 wrote: »

Yet people don't seem to have the same problems or stories about modern day Nissans despite using the same components for the most part. Lots of man down the pub and bar stool expert stories out there if you want to believe them.

Two chefs cooking from same ingredients may end up with two different dishes... Small details, such as precision when putting the seals DO matter...

Oafley Jones

Gravelly wrote: »

Great to hear Renaults are now enjoying jap levels of reliability, will have to get rid of the Audi and get myself a Laguna, if the experts say it, it must be true. All those mechanics haven't a clue what they're on about.

You can't be crowing about reliability if you've an Audi. They're improving again, but they were coming near bottom (if not last) in many reliability surveys in far more recent times than Renault.

scooby77

I have Leon St fr almost 2 years, 64k km. Driven hard. Not so much as a rattle. Very practical yet great handling.Standard fr spec very high. It's diesel, but the vag 1.4 tsi 150 gets great reviews in UK ( honest John forum etc). Paint bit softer than I'd like, but that seems common complaint nowadays.
Paintwork aside, great car.

grogi

scooby77 wrote: »

I have Leon St fr almost 2 years, 64k km. Driven hard. Not so much as a rattle. Very practical yet great handling.Standard fr spec very high. It's diesel, but the vag 1.4 tsi 150 gets great reviews in UK ( honest John forum etc). Paint bit softer than I'd like, but that seems common complaint nowadays.
Paintwork aside, great car.

The 150 tsi is the one to get. As a bonus you get ACT - active cylinder deactivation to reduce pumping loses.

bazz26

Renault Megane Sport Tourer with 205bhp:



http://www.carsireland.ie/detail.php?ad_id=1762530&r=s.php%3Fm%5B%5D%3D72%26o%5B%5D%3D619%26f%3D1%26yn%3D2017%26yx%3D2017%26pp%3D50%26g%3D0

grogi

bazz26 wrote: »

Renault Megane Sport Tourer with 205bhp:



http://www.carsireland.ie/detail.php?ad_id=1762530&r=s.php%3Fm%5B%5D%3D72%26o%5B%5D%3D619%26f%3D1%26yn%3D2017%26yx%3D2017%26pp%3D50%26g%3D0

I didn't know Renault were bringing the Tourer GT to Ireland... Cracking car.