MF 690 or 698

adamhughes

Which these was the best tractor or most sought after

TGJD

Neither :P tbh I think they are both similar enough really. 698 might attract a few more due to the tiny amount of extra horsepower.

adamhughes

the guy says the 690 is turbo but read on here that the 690 (factory fitted) was never turboed

rangler1

adamhughes wrote: »

the guy says the 690 is turbo but read on here that the 690 (factory fitted) was never turboed

Aren't those the ones with the poor cab

TGJD

adamhughes wrote: »

the guy says the 690 is turbo but read on here that the 690 (factory fitted) was never turboed

690T is turbo charged. Might be one of those. Or just retro fitted on the 690.

adamhughes

TGJD wrote: »

690T is turbo charged. Might be one of those. Or just retro fitted on the 690.

was told by dealer that they were fitted afterwards and not good job as couldnt handle the power but tractordata lists them
http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/007/5/6/7561-massey-ferguson-690t-engine.html

White Clover

690T were not a factory job. 690 used the 4.248 Perkins engine ...bombproof. 698 used the 4.318 Perkins engine, these were troublesome. The 698T used the Perkins 4.236T engine. These were the best of them.

kerry cow

Never had but seemly the 699 was a bomb proof tractor and one of the best massey made along with the 390 and the 399

White Clover

kerry cow wrote: »

Never had but seemly the 699 was a bomb proof tractor and one of the best massey made along with the 390 and the 399

699 and early 399 had 6.354 Perkins engine, great tractors but could be a little hard to start. Later 399 had Perkins 1000 series phaser engines. These were good...

emaherx

kerry cow wrote: »

Never had but seemly the 699 was a bomb proof tractor and one of the best massey made along with the 390 and the 399

And the 698T has the same engine as 390T and 398 also consider a reliable Engine. The 698 has a much more troublesome engine and be especially weary of aftermarket turbos on standard 698’s.

darragh_haven

emaherx wrote: »

And the 698T has the same engine as 390T and 398 also consider a reliable Engine. The 698 has a much more troublesome engine and be especially weary of aftermarket turbos on standard 698’s.

Have a 698 here, bought new in 1986. Never ever had one problem with the engine.

The Cab and balancing the brakes are the 2 big issues

emaherx

darragh_haven wrote: »

Have a 698 here, bought new in 1986. Never ever had one problem with the engine.

The Cab and balancing the brakes are the 2 big issues

Well 600 series cabs were built out of rust

But, sure there are plenty of 698 engines which haven't given trouble, but a lot more did compared to either 690's or 698T's.

But no issue hear with balancing the brakes in ours :P

darragh_haven

emaherx wrote: »

Well 600 series cabs were built out of rust

But, sure there are plenty of 698 engines which haven't given trouble, but a lot more did compared to either 690's or 698T's.

But no issue hear with balancing the brakes in ours :P

Had a massey mechanic in our place once, and he failed to balance the brakes. One would always lock up and the other freewheel.

emaherx

darragh_haven wrote: »

Had a massey mechanic in our place once, and he failed to balance the brakes. One would always lock up and the other freewheel.

But did you have a good one? Did they remove the axles as it sounds like you need new discs and or actuators.

Driver2016

Have a 698t great engine in it never let me down no problem agtaiting slurry cutting silage bailing always working with it everyday cab is not good made in Italy I think I've never seeing one in good condition parts can be saucy though or hard to source sometimes it's a 1987 dosnt owe me anything lol

adamhughes

so whats a 690T 4wd worth in good enough order, cab good enough too

emaherx

adamhughes wrote: »

so whats a 690T 4wd worth in good enough order, cab good enough too

Define good enough. 3000 - 8000 depending on what you call good enough.

I suspect "good enough" is about 5000ish

adamhughes

emaherx wrote: »

Define good enough. 3000 - 8000 depending on what you call good enough.

I suspect "good enough" is about 5000ish

good cab, tinwork, engine and tyres, main massey dealer was only allowing 3500 trade in for 2003 massey, he must not have a high opinion on them

emaherx

adamhughes wrote: »

good cab, tinwork, engine and tyres, main massey dealer was only allowing 3500 trade in for 2003 massey, he must not have a high opinion on them

3500 sounds like a good price from a dealer, they generally don't want to bother with 30 year old tractors. And the dealer won't be selling it on at 3500.

Driver2016

Pity sell it cnt beat the old Massey's you'd always find something to fix them round the farm to get you outa ahold what model are you interested in getting??

adamhughes

emaherx wrote: »

3500 sounds like a good price from a dealer, they generally don't want to bother with 30 year old tractors. And the dealer won't be selling it on at 3500.

probably right but when the newish massey is broke down the 690t be still going and with the profit they make out of these tractors couldnt they offer more to clinch the sale

emaherx

adamhughes wrote: »

probably right but when the newish massey is broke down the 690t be still going and with the profit they make out of these tractors couldnt they offer more to clinch the sale

If you really think the 690T will be still going when the new one is broke why are you trading?

If you really want to get the most you can for it sell it privately. But there is no guarantee of a quick sale either.

And I wouldn't be so sure the profit is that good on the sale of a second hand tractor with another second hand tractor traded in against it.They will need to sell the 690T in a straight deal to make it worthwhile and the 600 series are over 30 years old and not in great demand, so that could take a while.

adamhughes

emaherx wrote: »

If you really think the 690T will be still going when the new one is broke why are you trading?

If you really want to get the most you can for it sell it privately. But there is no guarantee of a quick sale either.

And I wouldn't be so sure the profit is that good on the sale of a second hand tractor with another second hand tractor traded in against it.They will need to sell the 690T in a straight deal to make it worthwhile and the 600 series are over 30 years old and not in great demand, so that could take a while.

like something 40k and more comfort i suppose, 690 are noisy too.

thanks for advice