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Have to evacuate the house

  • 01-07-2017 12:04am
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 531 ✭✭✭


    Hi everyone. So I'm in a bit of a crisis here at the moment. I have been living in this house for 15 years and now all of a sudden the landlord says they want the house for a family member.

    Anyways I am in a crisis as my son has had a complicated surgery and any movement or stress is basically poisin for him. He has a stoma bag and to move around is kind of unhygienic for his wound as the doctors have said it.

    To make matters worse there are no houses available for rent that fits my budget. Anyone know what options I have so I could stay im this current house for only a year at least until my son heals?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Length of tenancy Notice that the landlord must give
    Less than 6 months 4 weeks (28 days)
    6 months or longer but less than 1 year 5 weeks (35 days)
    1 year or longer but less than 2 years 6 weeks (42 days)
    2 years or longer but less than 3 years 8 weeks (56 days)
    3 years or longer but less than 4 years 12 weeks (84 days)
    4 years or longer but less than 5 years 16 weeks (112 days)
    5 years or longer but less than 6 years 20 weeks (140 days)
    6 years or longer but less than 7 years 24 weeks (168 days)
    7 years or longer but less than 8 years 28 weeks (196 days)
    8 years or longer 32 weeks (224 days)

    You're looking at just shy of 2/3 of a year. Plenty of time to get the lad mobile.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 531 ✭✭✭fontdor


    ED E wrote: »
    You're looking at just shy of 2/3 of a year. Plenty of time to get the lad mobile.

    That's the thing though. My notice was given till July 14 2017 and still haven't found a place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    fontdor wrote: »
    What does this mean exactly?

    It means your landlord has to give you 32 weeks notice before you have to leave.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 531 ✭✭✭fontdor


    It means your landlord has to give you 32 weeks notice before you have to leave.

    That's the thing though. My notice was given till July 14 2017 and still haven't found a place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    fontdor wrote: »
    That's the thing though. My notice was given till July 14 2017 and still haven't found a place.

    But he gave you the full 32 weeks notice?

    Not much sudden about havingn8 months to move.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭gizmo81


    I'm so sorry to hear about your situation.

    Can you approach your local authority?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 531 ✭✭✭fontdor


    But he gave you the full 32 weeks notice?

    Not much sudden about havingn8 months to move.

    Yes. He gave me the notice sonewhere is April of 2016.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    fontdor wrote: »
    That's the thing though. My notice was given till July 14 2017 and still haven't found a place.

    You've 32 weeks to get sorted, if all is above bored. Then provided you pay rent you don't have to leave for another 32 weeks. Thats my understanding. Best contact the PTSB.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Are you saying that you were served notice the 2nd of December last year? Cant really be coming on with a sob story how you
    now all of a sudden
    have to move. You've been given notice, no big shocker there.


    If you live in Dublin theres a large change you wont be able to stay in the same area, especially if you've not had a recent rent review.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    fontdor wrote: »
    Yes. He gave me the notice sonewhere is April of 2016.

    Notice is up then. Should already be gone.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 531 ✭✭✭fontdor


    ED E wrote: »
    Notice is up then. Should already be gone.

    One last thing. The notice was not valid. I called the auctineer and they said it is and that they won't give me a new notice. All the notice said was that the landlord gives you 32 weeks to find a new property as she needs it for a family member. Yours Sincerely,..............


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭gizmo81


    If the notice is not valid you can refer a dispute to the RTB free of charge

    https://www.rtb.ie/telephone-mediation-process

    fontdor wrote: »
    One last thing. The notice was not valid. I called the auctineer and they said it is and that they won't give me a new notice. All the notice said was that the landlord gives you 32 weeks to find a new property as she needs it for a family member. Yours Sincerely,..............


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    fontdor wrote: »
    Yes. He gave me the notice sonewhere is April of 2016.

    Then you've to leave?

    A house won't sell over night. It can take months, have a chat with the LL, come to a deal of 2 more months and then you'll leave. It's strictly at their discretion.

    Use the time to get yourself sorted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,387 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    fontdor wrote: »
    Yes. He gave me the notice sonewhere is April of 2016.

    You've had over a year notice and didn't bother your arse looking until now.
    Sorry, but that's the extent of my sympathy.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 531 ✭✭✭fontdor


    You've had over a year notice and didn't bother your arse looking until now.
    Sorry, but that's the extent of my sympathy.

    I don't really want your sympathy to be honest. I was in and out of the hospital for the past 2 years due to my son. I'm pretty sure if you were in my shoes you would give up everything and do everything possible so your child becomes healthy again.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭gizmo81


    I understand you've had a difficult time recently with your sons health and it is sometimes hard to focus on things when you feel they are insurmountable.

    Have you any support? Friends or family?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 531 ✭✭✭fontdor


    gizmo81 wrote: »
    I understand you've had a difficult time recently with your sons health and it is sometimes hard to focus on things when you feel they are insurmountable.

    Have you any support? Friends or family?

    Thank you so much! I wish there was more people like you in this world. Unfortunately all my family are back in my home country. I do have a few friends but unfortunately they themselves in a rented accommodation as well.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭gizmo81


    As you are at risk of homelessness with a sick child, would you approach some services that might be able to help? I don't know if you are in Dublin but I found this

    “We strongly encourage families and individuals who are renting and may be worried about losing their home to contact the Tenancy Protection Service on FREEPHONE 1800 454 454. This service has been instrumental in preventing homelessness in the first instance and supporting people to remain in their homes.

    http://www.homelessdublin.ie/tenancy-protection-service-successfully-protects-over-3000-households-risk-losing-their-tenancy

    fontdor wrote: »
    Thank you so much! I wish there was more people like you in this world. Unfortunately all my family are back in my home country. I do have a few friends but unfortunately they themselves in a rented accommodation themselves as well.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 531 ✭✭✭fontdor


    gizmo81 wrote: »
    As you are at risk of homelessness with a sick child, would you approach some services that might be able to help? I don't know if you are in Dublin but I found this

    “We strongly encourage families and individuals who are renting and may be worried about losing their home to contact the Tenancy Protection Service on FREEPHONE 1800 454 454. This service has been instrumental in preventing homelessness in the first instance and supporting people to remain in their homes.

    http://www.homelessdublin.ie/tenancy-protection-service-successfully-protects-over-3000-households-risk-losing-their-tenancy

    Oh wow! Thank you so much for this! I am calling this number first thing tomorrow. I really don't know what to say except Thank you!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭gizmo81


    Now worries at all, I really hope they can help you. Keep safe and hope your son gets better soon.

    fontdor wrote: »
    Oh wow! Thank you so much for this! I am calling this number first thing tomorrow. I really don't know what to say except Thank you!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,935 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    fontdor wrote: »
    Oh wow! Thank you so much for this! I am calling this number first thing tomorrow. I really don't know what to say except Thank you!!

    Call the LL second and let them know your situation. I doubt they know your personal problems and you might be able to reach staying an extra month or two. I wouldn't sit idle either way. You need to get sorted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,387 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    fontdor wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure if you were in my shoes you would give up everything and do everything possible so your child becomes healthy again.

    You're wrong to be pretty sure.

    I'd make sure my son has a home to go to in that time period instead of chancing my arm at the last minute.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 939 ✭✭✭nuckeythompson


    Would you not go back to your home country?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,428 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    You're wrong to be pretty sure.

    I'd make sure my son has a home to go to in that time period instead of chancing my arm at the last minute.
    This might be one of those times when, although we know we're right and have a grand auld view from the elevated saddle, we choose to go easy because the situation is difficult?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,255 ✭✭✭Yawns


    The situation is difficult because they chose to bury their heads in the sand. Invalid notice? Unless it was pointed out within 28 days then it's deemed to be accepted. Son in hospital over 2 years, got notice last year, plenty of time to look, but instead come on and say it's "all of a sudden". We all know that the OP wants sympathy and some sort of get out of jail free card whether it's stay in the same house or perhaps get bumped up the council house list. This is entirely a messy situation of their own doing tho.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,691 ✭✭✭4ensic15


    If the notice expires on July 14th and the o/p does not vacate the LL has to go to the RTB. If the notice was invalid as it seems to be, then everything will stop and a new notice will have to be issued giving 32 weeks notice. The o/p is in possession for the moment and it will take a lot to get her out. She should get a good lawyer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭I love Sean nos


    fontdor wrote: »
    I was in and out of the hospital for the past 2 years due to my son.
    Looking for somewhere to live is one of those things that you could have been doing when out of the hospital.
    fontdor wrote: »
    do everything possible
    Except look for somewhere for both of you to live.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Regrettably, if i was the landlord this is a case where I would give no quarter. I would expect that any extra time or leeway given would simply result in this exact same situation at whatever later date is conceded.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭myshirt


    Regrettably, if i was the landlord this is a case where I would give no quarter. I would expect that any extra time or leeway given would simply result in this exact same situation at whatever later date is conceded.

    I tend to agree.

    The op has met significant challenges in life, no doubt; but you have to address these issues, and address them with even more focus given there is a very sick child involved. This is either complete & utter incompetence in the welfare of your child, or a sad collapse of a woman under pressure with no support.

    Op, you have had so many touch points with public services in this country since the time of the notice to vacate. How in god's name did this happen? If we can help here we will.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,359 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Would you not go back to your home country?

    Why should he have to do that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,834 ✭✭✭CountingCrows


    Why should he have to do that?

    Support of friends and family? Somebody to read letters left unactioned for 31wks...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,146 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    So OP was given notice April 2016(?) and is only now starting to think about it when the period is almost up?

    I sympathise with her situation regarding her son, but you can't just ignore such things either. Sounds to me like her LL has been more than generous as she's gotten well in excess of the required notice period.

    As for the OP's options.. by all means apply for social housing if a private tenancy can't be afforded, but that said - no "exceptions" for circumstances should be given here either. Might sound harsh, but she's had plenty of time to sort SOMETHING out, and if the little lad is in that bad a state for the medium/long term, then maybe moving to where she does have family/friends to both help out AND give her some support as well might not be such a bad idea either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭myshirt


    It's not beyond comprehension that your life can fall to absolute sh't if you are on your own with a child as sick as that with no support. Even putting on a clean pair of knickers can be a challenge. This is an awful situation that it went this far.

    This woman needs help, and moreso the child, especially if the child is a citizen of this country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,821 ✭✭✭fussyonion


    myshirt wrote: »
    It's not beyond comprehension that your life can fall to absolute sh't if you are on your own with a child as sick as that with no support. Even putting on a clean pair of knickers can be a challenge. This is an awful situation that it went this far.

    This woman needs help, and moreso the child, especially of the child is a citizen of this country.


    Since when did this matter?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭myshirt


    fussyonion wrote: »
    Since when did this matter?

    Citizenship matters hugely.

    Is that a serious question?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,381 ✭✭✭✭Paulw


    Mod Note: Considering the OPs posting history on boards, I'm closing this thread.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,286 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    As a final note- have a chat with the GI nurse- it doesn't take as long as you are suggesting to recover from the type of surgery your son has had (believe you me- I know)- and also, there are lots of people who live with stomas- indefinitely- its not 'unhygienic' you learn to live with it- yes, its annoying- but you can get nice pouches for them- even on Amazon- and we have a small community in the Long Term Illness forum- who can give you lots of information on it.


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