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Films and Cigarettes/Alcohol/Drugs

  • 26-06-2017 8:12pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 573 ✭✭✭


    Its only very recently that I really have taken offence to modern movies/TV. Most will call that age. So I love House of Cards. But I also see it and how cigarette smoking is portrayed in positions of power, with a whiskey here and a whiskey there. And this bothers me. I don't wan't to sound like a prude, and I know I do, but I find much of the TV being put in front of us promotes this behaviour. And it concerns me.

    Of course the other argument is the films that promote the importance of winning at sports to an unhealthy degree also.

    I just wonder how can a balance be struck, or can a balance be struck with the TV industry so things can be shown 'differently' without everything being utterly boring


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,669 ✭✭✭brevity


    What's your feeling on the popularity of "R" rated movies?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,835 ✭✭✭Falthyron


    Its only very recently that I really have taken offence to modern movies/TV. Most will call that age. So I love House of Cards. But I also see it and how cigarette smoking is portrayed in positions of power, with a whiskey here and a whiskey there. And this bothers me. I don't wan't to sound like a prude, and I know I do, but I find much of the TV being put in front of us promotes this behaviour. And it concerns me.

    Of course the other argument is the films that promote the importance of winning at sports to an unhealthy degree also.

    I just wonder how can a balance be struck, or can a balance be struck with the TV industry so things can be shown 'differently' without everything being utterly boring

    House of Cards is rated 18s. It is awarded such a rating because it contains footage of violence, sex, bad language, bad behaviour, etc. People under the age of 18 are more impressionable and likely to adopt actions/behaviour based on what they perceive to be success/value/encouraged. People over the age of 18 are more capable of thinking critically about such actions, and less likely to be influenced by them. In short, the general consensus believes: someone under 18 is more likely to be inspired by a gun-toting maniac on a shooting spree than someone over 18, so we restrict what can impress on the younger population.

    Alternatively, don't watch 18s rated shows. I don't particularly like romantic-comedies, but some people do. More power to them as nobody is forcing me to watch them.

    P.S. If you don't like the smoking/drinking in House of Cards, 'Mad Men' would definitely not be your cup of tea.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    Its only very recently that I really have taken offence to modern movies/TV. Most will call that age. So I love House of Cards. But I also see it and how cigarette smoking is portrayed in positions of power, with a whiskey here and a whiskey there. And this bothers me. I don't wan't to sound like a prude, and I know I do, but I find much of the TV being put in front of us promotes this behaviour. And it concerns me.

    Of course the other argument is the films that promote the importance of winning at sports to an unhealthy degree also.

    I just wonder how can a balance be struck, or can a balance be struck with the TV industry so things can be shown 'differently' without everything being utterly boring


    That's your choice. There's nothing to be fixed in relation to this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 573 ✭✭✭Hastentoadd


    That's your choice. There's nothing to be fixed in relation to this.

    I actually think there is. In times past films were rated with whatever rating. So it was a simple matter of not allowing your kids to watch a certain rated film (there was only one TV in the house). But today you have so many devices and all you have to do is tick an icon to say you are over 18. So rating a film/TV series is meaningless in the modern world.

    So getting back to the old situation where kids were not allowed to watch more mature themes (and I do wonder why mature people wish to watch certain 'mature' themes).

    As such I do believe there is something to be fixed. There is no point in rating a film/TV series if it is available to all and sundry on their multimedia devices. Surely it has to be more than a tick in a box to indicate 'over 18'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    Falthyron wrote: »
    People over the age of 18 are more capable of thinking critically about such actions, and less likely to be influenced by them


    Ahahahahaahahahahaahhahaahaaaa :D:D:D:D:D:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,835 ✭✭✭Falthyron


    I actually think there is. In times past films were rated with whatever rating. So it was a simple matter of not allowing your kids to watch a certain rated film (there was only one TV in the house). But today you have so many devices and all you have to do is tick an icon to say you are over 18. So rating a film/TV series is meaningless in the modern world.

    So getting back to the old situation where kids were not allowed to watch more mature themes (and I do wonder why mature people wish to watch certain 'mature' themes).

    As such I do believe there is something to be fixed. There is no point in rating a film/TV series if it is available to all and sundry on their multimedia devices. Surely it has to be more than a tick in a box to indicate 'over 18'.

    That is a parent's responsibility to manage, not a film company's. There is clearly a market for mature themes in TV shows and film, and these companies are looking to make money, so why shouldn't they make content for that market? If this material offends you, then you should stick to film and TV shows rated under 15s as they are less likely to contain scenes promoting alcohol or cigarettes.

    If you are concerned for children watching mature content then you need more secure devices at home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,835 ✭✭✭Falthyron


    Slydice wrote: »
    Ahahahahaahahahahaahhahaahaaaa :D:D:D:D:D:D

    I guess in your world a 7 year old is able to understand that the violence and bad language in a movie like, The Terminator, isn't real and is just for entertainment purposes. It wouldn't give them nightmares or act out in ways to simulate what they saw or heard?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 540 ✭✭✭Telecaster58


    Its only very recently that I really have taken offence to modern movies/TV. Most will call that age. So I love House of Cards. But I also see it and how cigarette smoking is portrayed in positions of power, with a whiskey here and a whiskey there. And this bothers me. I don't wan't to sound like a prude, and I know I do, but I find much of the TV being put in front of us promotes this behaviour. And it concerns me.

    Of course the other argument is the films that promote the importance of winning at sports to an unhealthy degree also.

    I just wonder how can a balance be struck, or can a balance be struck with the TV industry so things can be shown 'differently' without everything being utterly boring
    What do you make of a film like Casablanca?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    I actually think there is. In times past films were rated with whatever rating. So it was a simple matter of not allowing your kids to watch a certain rated film (there was only one TV in the house). But today you have so many devices and all you have to do is tick an icon to say you are over 18. So rating a film/TV series is meaningless in the modern world.

    So getting back to the old situation where kids were not allowed to watch more mature themes (and I do wonder why mature people wish to watch certain 'mature' themes).

    As such I do believe there is something to be fixed. There is no point in rating a film/TV series if it is available to all and sundry on their multimedia devices. Surely it has to be more than a tick in a box to indicate 'over 18'.

    Then the responsibility is on the parents to educate the kids, not on a film/TV production company to edit their content for everyone. Bananas logic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭BuyersRemorse


    Ah, the good old days when you could leave your kids in front of the TV watching their favourite cartoons without any danger of their little minds being corrupted...



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