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Car stolen without key

  • 26-06-2017 12:22pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭


    My car was stolen last night, it was sitting in my driveway and the thieves broke the car window, how did they start it without the key? It's a Black Toyota Auris diesel automatic 12D
    Maybe it's time to bring back the old steering locks or better still a lock and chain


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    Bebop wrote: »
    My car was stolen last night, it was sitting in my driveway and the thieves broke the car window, how did they start it without the key? It's a Black Toyota Auris diesel automatic 12D
    Maybe it's time to bring back the old steering locks or better still a lock and chain

    They could have dropped the handbrake and put it on a flatbed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,539 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Does it have a keycard or key to start? Have you had the car from new?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    Steering locks are still fitted to cars, had you yours engaged?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭Bebop


    It's a standard key in the ignition type start and yes, we have it from new,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭Bebop


    The steering lock would have engaged if it was moved, it had to be turned a bit to get past my wife's car


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    Steering locks are quite easily broken so its not really a deterrent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,539 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Is the car an original Irish/UK registered car from new or Japanese import?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭Bebop


    Owned from new, not an import


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,890 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    Bebop wrote: »
    My car was stolen last night, it was sitting in my driveway and the thieves broke the car window, how did they start it without the key? It's a Black Toyota Auris diesel automatic 12D
    Maybe it's time to bring back the old steering locks or better still a lock and chain

    The D plate may have made it too tempting for the thief?


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Bebop wrote: »
    My car was stolen last night, it was sitting in my driveway and the thieves broke the car window, how did they start it without the key? It's a Black Toyota Auris diesel automatic 12D
    Maybe it's time to bring back the old steering locks or better still a lock and chain
    jonnycivic wrote: »
    They could have dropped the handbrake and put it on a flatbed?

    Automatic so would be in PARK


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,290 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Bebop wrote: »
    Maybe it's time to bring back the old steering locks or better still a lock and chain
    Neither are much use really. The only one that would serve as a deterrent are the ones that cover the entire steering wheel. The others are easily bypassed, simply by cutting through the steering wheel itself. A hacksaw will go through the majority like a hot knife through butter, as steering wheels are meant to bend under forces in car crashes for example.

    I'd have said that they just cloned the key via the OBD port. Common enough these days and again easily enough done with most cars with one. Security systems on cars have not kept up with the technology of security in other household items like computers. They're mostly mired in the early noughties. They needed to break the window to gain access to it. Done carefully the factory internal alarm sensors won't trigger(they set them quite low, so they don't get complaints about false alarms).

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 276 ✭✭Murt102


    Have you got a copy of the key cut recently?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    Augeo wrote: »
    Automatic so would be in PARK

    Surely they could change it out of park to move it?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,290 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Murt102 wrote: »
    Have you got a copy of the key cut recently?
    If they'd had a key they wouldn't have needed to smash the window I'd have thought?

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    Wibbs wrote: »
    If they'd had a key they wouldn't have needed to smash the window I'd have thought?

    Yeah but we know how dumb some criminals are in fairness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,360 ✭✭✭death1234567


    jonnycivic wrote: »
    Yeah but we know how dumb some criminals are in fairness.

    Not dumb enough to break a window to get into a car when they have the key in their hand I would suggest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,479 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Just a thought but was the car recently in for a valet or service? Long shot but it's possible that the key was cloned while it was there without you knowing it if it was a place you were not familiar with using.


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    jonnycivic wrote: »
    Surely they could change it out of park to move it?

    Ever tried that without a key in an automatic?
    It's as easy to start the car in most cases without the key as get it out of park in modern stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,219 ✭✭✭✭biko


    I assume you assume they broke the car window because there was glass on the driveway?

    If you (or others) live in a risk area or have a desirable car then consider a bollard.
    101-670%20Telescopic%20bollard.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,525 ✭✭✭ION08


    What car was it? .. BMW?

    Edit: sorry just re-read the OP


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,244 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    biko wrote: »
    I assume you assume they broke the car window because there was glass on the driveway?

    If you (or others) live in a risk area or have a desirable car then consider a bollard[/IMG]

    That particular one looks absolutely useless. There's space around it to do donuts :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭Bebop


    Toyota Multi-mode Automatic does not have a park position but you can leave it in gear, it cannot be moved into neutral without the igition on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    I wonder is there some hidden manual way of getting these cars into neutral, e.g. if the battery's dead and it needs to be towed?
    Steering locks are still fitted to cars, had you yours engaged?

    My '12 Prius doesn't have a steering lock, so it's possible other automatic Toyotas don't either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 rgood


    Bebop wrote: »
    My car was stolen last night, it was sitting in my driveway and the thieves broke the car window, how did they start it without the key? It's a Black Toyota Auris diesel automatic 12D
    Maybe it's time to bring back the old steering locks or better still a lock and chain
    My car Toyota Auris Black Tourer stolen from drive nearly 2 weeks ago no keys and window smashed. Very hard to roll out from Cul De Sac


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 rgood


    My car Toyota Auris Black Tourer stolen from drive nearly 2 weeks ago no keys and window smashed. Very hard to roll out from Cul De Sac. Did you get Car back


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭Bebop


    rgood wrote: »
    My car Toyota Auris Black Tourer stolen from drive nearly 2 weeks ago no keys and window smashed. Very hard to roll out from Cul De Sac. Did you get Car back

    Sounds like the same gang that took mine..I am presuming that there were several people involved and they pushed it out and towed it away, I could not say for certain that it was in gear, if it was they would have needed to switch on the ignition in order to put it into neutral..(MM automatic gearbox)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 rgood


    I wonder I am in a cul de sac within a cul de sac with alarm. still broke window so Ihave no idea how they do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,494 ✭✭✭SCOOP 64


    biko wrote: »
    I assume you assume they broke the car window because there was glass on the driveway?

    If you (or others) live in a risk area or have a desirable car then consider a bollard.
    101-670%20Telescopic%20bollard.jpg
    Looks like you could reverse round that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭DesperateDan


    3 months ago I, who live in the absolute middle of nowhere in Longford, was working from home. Knock on the door midday from a startled gentleman with a white van clearly not expecting an answer. The question he managed to stumble out was something along the lines of "Oh, eh, how are you doing, ummm I was just wondering if your car around the back there was an Auris for sale." To which I said, no, it's a Corsa and no it's not for sale.

    He then went on his merry way. Bet he was on the lookout for an Auris himself :)


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