Combining satellite and Saorview using splitter

Cork981

Hi all

I'm using a satellite and cable splitters to combine Saorview frequencies < 860mhz and sat > 950mhz

Both work perfect but once I power on the satellite box the Saorview drops off with a no signal notification but returns the second I power down the satellite box.

Any reason for this ?

It's a hybrid sky Q lnb and I'm using an old mmds receiver on the roof to pick up Saorview.

Any suggestions ?

The Cush

What satellite receiver are you using?

Is it a SkyQ receiver? If so, then it's not possible to combine this receiver with Saorview as the FBC (I.F. range) frequencies (290-2340 MHz) from the Hybrid LNB completely overlaps the Saorview frequencies (470-790 MHz).

Regarding the MMDS aerial receiving the Saorview frequencies, probably not the best as it covers a different range, 2500-2700 MHz.

Thurston?

Cork981 wrote: »

... I'm using an old mmds receiver on the roof to pick up Saorview.

The MMDS feed/LNC won't be doing anything for Saorview, you're just picking up signal on the cable, so most likely a poor signal that would be overwhelmed by whatever LNB noise isn't filtered out by the combiner.

Cork981

The Cush wrote: »

What satellite receiver are you using?

Is it a SkyQ receiver? If so, then it's not possible to combine this receiver with Saorview as the FBC (I.F. range) frequencies (290-2340 MHz) from the Hybrid LNB completely overlaps the Saorview frequencies (470-790 MHz).

Regarding the MMDS aerial receiving the Saorview frequencies, probably not the best as it covers a different range, 2500-2700 MHz.

It's just a standard FTA receiver box.

The sky Q box is downstairs only.

When I power off the FTA box Saorview channels work fine, I guess it's just a weak signal thing so.

Would an antenna inside the attic be any good ? I'm about 5 km away from the spur hill transmitter.

Cork981

Thurston? wrote: »

The MMDS feed/LNC won't be doing anything for Saorview, you're just picking up signal on the cable, so most likely a poor signal that would be overwhelmed by whatever LNB noise isn't filtered out by the combiner.

Damn, taugh the MMDS Receiver might cover a larger range.

Would using the power injector that came with the mmds antenna make any difference ?

The Cush

Cork981 wrote: »

Would an antenna inside the attic be any good ? I'm about 5 km away from the spur hill transmitter.

5 kms from Spur Hill should be OK for Saorview aerial in the attic, you won't know for sure until you test. Group K aerial will cover that transmitter now and into future.

The Cush

Cork981 wrote: »

Would using the power injector that came with the mmds antenna make any difference ?

No, optimised for the higher MMDS frequency range.

Thurston?

Cork981 wrote: »

Would an antenna inside the attic be any good ? I'm about 5 km away from the spur hill transmitter.

Should be, given that you're getting a borderline signal on just the cable of the MMDS setup.

Cork981 wrote: »

Would using the power injector that came with the mmds antenna make any difference ?

No, MMDS setup works like the LNB on the satellite dish, & any Saorview signal picked up would be converted to a totally unusable frequency range, & probably filtered out anyway.

Cork981

The Cush wrote: »

5 kms from Spur Hill should be OK for Saorview aerial in the attic, you won't know for sure until you test. Group K aerial will cover that transmitter now and into future.

Thanks. Not a bad price for the Antenna.

Do you know if Saorview have any plans of expanding its channel line up ?

Will none Irish channel ever be available.

The Cush

Cork981 wrote: »

Not a bad price for the Antenna.

Basic contract aerial, depending on your location you may be able to pick one up locally.

Cork981 wrote: »

Do you know if Saorview have any plans of expanding its channel line up ?

Will none Irish channel ever be available.

No new channels planned but they will be launching the new Saorview Connect service a some point in the future, including a Saorview/FTA satellite combi, thread here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057041188

Cork981

Would this be any good in the attic ?

http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/1078471/Trail/searchtext>OUTDOOR+ANTENNA.htm

The Cush

Cork981 wrote: »

Would this be any good in the attic ?

http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/1078471/Trail/searchtext%3EOUTDOOR+ANTENNA.htm

Yes, it should work and if it doesn't Argos have a hassle free returns policy.

The only negatives I would have with it would be its size, the reflector may be a little awkward for an attic space and also the aerial is probably a wideband type (Ch21-69) and so may be susceptible to 4G and future 5G interference from any nearby mobile base-stations.

A Group K aerial (Ch21-48) will currently cover the Spur Hill frequencies and future Spur Hill frequencies from late 2019 when a slice of broadcasting spectrum is cleared for mobile services and Spur Hill frequencies are moved down the band.

FastFullBack

The Cush wrote: »

5 kms from Spur Hill should be OK for Saorview aerial in the attic, you won't know for sure until you test. Group K aerial will cover that transmitter now and into future.

Hi, going to slightly hijack this thread if you don't mind. I'm 3-4 KM from Spur Hill and using this aerial in the attic http://www.satellite.ie/cgi-bin/sh000001.pl?WD=compact%20aerial%20band%20wide&PN=Attic-and-Outdoor-digital-tv-aerial%2ehtml#SID=10

Would I be better of using the Group K aerial?

I've been having some reception issues recently, it could be due to continued building work behind my house that may be interfering, I'm planning to move be the aerial a foot or so higher to try to fix this.

The Cush

Externally mounted and within group would be the recommendation.

That log periodic may again be a wideband type (W 21-69 or T 21-60) and above post would also apply for the future.

Difficult to know what would be interfering now, something new in the attic or something new external, aerial moved in the attic? Checking aerial connections and readjusting position would be my first step.

Antenna

FastFullBack wrote: »

Hi, going to slightly hijack this thread if you don't mind. I'm 3-4 KM from Spur Hill and using this aerial in the attic http://www.satellite.ie/cgi-bin/sh000001.pl?WD=compact%20aerial%20band%20wide&PN=Attic-and-Outdoor-digital-tv-aerial%2ehtml#SID=10

Would I be better of using the Group K aerial?

I've been having some reception issues recently, it could be due to continued building work behind my house that may be interfering, I'm planning to move be the aerial a foot or so higher to try to fix this.

What direction are you from Spur Hill ? there would be very little signal in areas more southwards considering its pattern. You might be better served by a different transmitter (i.e. Mullaghanish) depending where you exactly are (remember receiver will need to be retuned if trying that instead)

FastFullBack

Antenna wrote: »

What direction are you from Spur Hill ? there would be very little signal in areas more southwards considering its pattern. You might be better served by a different transmitter (i.e. Mullaghanish) depending where you exactly are (remember receiver will need to be retuned if trying that instead)

I'm north east of spur hill in Manor farm , looking now it's really only 2-3KM

Antenna

FastFullBack wrote: »

I'm north east of spur hill in Manor farm , looking now it's really only 2-3KM

If buildings have been built near you in the path of the signal, moving the aerial location about to a new position will likely cure it.
Alternatively you could try aiming the aerial at Mullaghanish instead (requires a retune to UHF Chs 21 and 24 instead of the current 45 and 49 for Spur Hill)