Well done UK. Bureaucratic you're not.

A Battered Mars Bar

It's so impressive to see the UK spring into action with a no nonsense approach in the aftermath of the Grendfall tradegy.

Boom. 7 high rise towers undergoing remedial works to fix cladding issues.
Boom 800 houses in Camden made available for homeless people as a result.
Boom 1 week and not only the cause of the fire known but also the contributing factors to the blaze known.


Meanwhile in backward little sure ti be grand Ireland.

Some lad on the radio today....

Some gummerment suit lad be like sure twee don't have the resources boy in the council ta be doing fire checks at the moment laa sure we don't. Tur ti be grand like.

F*ck me it's embarrassing.

diomed

We have to have a few rounds of buck passing, then the summer holidays, then forget.

lazybones32

Who voted politicians in? Who lets them get away with their actions?

Politicians know people will only ring joe duffy or gripe on boards and that's the extent of it. Nothing to fear; nothing to lose. Willie o dea lied under oath and waited how many weeks before resigning his ministerial position?

You get the politicians you deserve.

washman3

In this country our Government would have to draw lots to find out which minister or TD's son/brother/nephew/cousin would obtain the contract and become a multi-millionaire out of the whole thing.
Would probably take about 2 or 3 years.

RobertKK

Did the councils here get remedial work done on council owned buildings and turn them into firetraps?

Well done UK...maybe a bit of bureaucracy and standards would have prevented such a tragedy.

Noveight

Best example of our politicians inability is the Gardaí.

From Maurice McCabe to Martin Callinan / Noreen O'Sullivan, the whole thing has been proven to be rotten to the core, an old boys club that circles the wagons once questions are asked.

Nothing has changed, it just trundles on.

Junkyard Tom

Considering what's been going on in Britain lately, with the guy blowing himself up at a gig full of young girls, others driving vans into people, stabbing sprees by jihadi nutters, people burning to death in tower blocks after thier concerns were ignored and threatened with legal action, makes me appreciate living in this country.

prinzeugen

RobertKK wrote: »

Did the councils here get remedial work done on council owned buildings and turn them into firetraps?

Well done UK...maybe a bit of bureaucracy and standards would have prevented such a tragedy.

Bray.. Happened here too. Old court estate.


http://www.independent.ie/regionals/braypeople/news/six-children-and-three-adults-killed-in-fires-at-oldcourt-since-the-1980s-30641623.html

A Battered Mars Bar

A Battered Mars Bar wrote: »

It's so impressive to see the UK spring into action with a no nonsense approach in the aftermath of the Grendfall tradegy.

Boom. 7 high rise towers undergoing remedial works to fix cladding issues.
Boom 800 houses in Camden made available for homeless people as a result.
Boom 1 week and not only the cause of the fire known but also the contributing factors to the blaze known.


Meanwhile in backward little sure ti be grand Ireland.

Some lad on the radio today....

Some gummerment suit lad be like sure twee don't have the resources boy in the council ta be doing fire checks at the moment laa sure we don't. Tur ti be grand like.

F*ck me it's embarrassing.

Oh ya, totally.
London is 4+ the population of Ireland, kinda understandable that scale-wise they'd be able to find more houses. Though it might be best if they hadn't got themselves into this situation.
People were going to hotels the night after the fire and being given a tenner.
Firechecks? Lol, about time.
Christ, to somehow use the not-very-efficient reaction to dozens of people being killed in a preventable fire in London to criticise Ireland is a fantastic bit of reaching. Like, it's so impressive that I'm amazed a lowly Irish person could possibly manage it.

A Battered Mars Bar

A Battered Mars Bar wrote: »

It's so impressive to see the UK spring into action with a no nonsense approach in the aftermath of the Grendfall tradegy.

Boom. 7 high rise towers undergoing remedial works to fix cladding issues.
Boom 800 houses in Camden made available for homeless people as a result.
Boom 1 week and not only the cause of the fire known but also the contributing factors to the blaze known.


Meanwhile in backward little sure ti be grand Ireland.

Some lad on the radio today....

Some gummerment suit lad be like sure twee don't have the resources boy in the council ta be doing fire checks at the moment laa sure we don't. Tur ti be grand like.

F*ck me it's embarrassing.

Its embarrassing that you think they are 'impressive' when 79 people had to die before any action was taken. Before this happened people were warning about safety with these tower blocks and they were ignored.

lawred2

A Battered Mars Bar wrote: »

It's so impressive to see the UK spring into action with a no nonsense approach in the aftermath of the Grendfall tradegy.

Boom. 7 high rise towers undergoing remedial works to fix cladding issues.
Boom 800 houses in Camden made available for homeless people as a result.
Boom 1 week and not only the cause of the fire known but also the contributing factors to the blaze known.


Meanwhile in backward little sure ti be grand Ireland.

Some lad on the radio today....

Some gummerment suit lad be like sure twee don't have the resources boy in the council ta be doing fire checks at the moment laa sure we don't. Tur ti be grand like.

F*ck me it's embarrassing.

Embarrassing alright.

https://politicalscrapbook.net/2017/06/new-fire-minister-was-among-72-tory-landlords-who-voted-against-homes-fit-for-human-habitation/

Grab All Association

There's Council houses throughout North Tipperary (2 bedroom built for the elderly in the 1970s) that don't have back doors. The fire brigade were called to one last year and they couldn't believe it the house had no back door to escape. Just one exit. I'll try to get some photos. You can street view it on maps.

7-10 Clohessy Place Bouladuff
Mountgeorge borrisoleigh
Littleton

These houses are death traps and should be fitted with patio/sliding doors at the rear. Only a matter of time before someone loses their life in one.

Junkyard Tom

lawred2 wrote: »

Embarrassing alright.

https://politicalscrapbook.net/2017/06/new-fire-minister-was-among-72-tory-landlords-who-voted-against-homes-fit-for-human-habitation/

It'd be interesting to know how many of them are rentier property owners - they should be excluded from voting on any accommodation issues if they are known to have a conflict of interest.

Lucy8080

It's panic, and a coming to consciousness of the fact that some folks in authority are now maybe subject to criminal prosecution.

If your position in life puts you in the seat for legal action/prosecution, you may be highly motivated right now!

RobertKK

27 high rises in 15 council areas used flammable cladding on the buildings.
Rushing to get stuff done and not bothering to see if materials used are to the required standards, saving money and putting lives at risk, that is what happened when bureaucracy goes out the window.
As said above, the threat of criminal prosecution made people take action, they were ignored, they take action after the events.

In Ireland we had people evacuated from Priory Hall, did we wait for a large scale tragedy?
20 families were removed from a building in Mountjoy Square.
All these were not council buildings but action was taken before people died in these buildings.

They did not seem to be proactive in Britain, a lack of bureaucracy maybe...they needed potential legal action of the most serious kind to get proactive.

ancapailldorcha

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Considering what's been going on in Britain lately, with the guy blowing himself up at a gig full of young girls, others driving vans into people, stabbing sprees by jihadi nutters, people burning to death in tower blocks after thier concerns were ignored and threatened with legal action, makes me appreciate living in this country.

These aren't even yearly occurrences.

Junkyard Tom

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

It'd be interesting to know how many of them are rentier property owners - they should be excluded from voting on any accommodation issues if they are known to have a conflict of interest.

How unsurprising.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDEZJlPWAAAX6S0.jpg

somefeen

How in the name of god does Grenfell make the UK look good to you?
If anything it finally shows to the global community how backward and divided it is as a country.

The rich/poor divide there is far worse than it is in Ireland and Grenfell is the result.

mad muffin

We need a tribunal.

CrabRevolution

I'm convinced there are people out there who rely on cringing and self loathing to stay alive (a cringeothermic creature maybe).

It must be a slow week for embarrassing stories though. Otherwise I'm not sure why anyone would start a thread claiming that they feel utterly humiliated by an event which never occurred and which they 100% imagined in their own head.

osarusan

CrabRevolution wrote: »

Otherwise I'm not sure why anyone would start a thread claiming that they feel utterly humiliated by an event which never occurred and which they 100% imagined in their own head.

AH is full of people who just love to f**king piss and moan about everything.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Quite a pathetic attempt to sway a story just to get another pop at the government and the country as a whole.

Korat

mad muffin wrote: »

We need a tribunal.

A public tribunal to decide if a tribunal is needed first.