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Can you be ''Swayed'' ?

  • 17-06-2017 5:55pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 736 ✭✭✭


    Do you vote the same party/person every election ? Are you one of the Undecided ? Me ? I hate Sinn Fein with a passion, Used to vote Fianna Fail in its hayday, I lived in Drumcondra, Never thought Fine Gael would come to the fore but I was wrong, again.
    I kinda like the fact that our new man is Leo. Just for the reason he is young, Gay (Who would have ever thought that} and maybe just maybe we might see something a bit different from Government. Great little country though !


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


    Everyone can be swayed.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 36,975 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Mod: Serious responses only please.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,240 ✭✭✭MayoSalmon


    I blow with the wind, unfortunately. Or maybe that's not such a bad thing.


    Strange..but seems to be what the majority do..One election cycle everyone is happy to be taxed to the hilt...the next they want there money to spend. Don't understand it personally but you would be the norm it would seem


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,517 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    I've always appreciated the opportunity to play a part in selecting our elected representatives.

    I'm quite well educated and an avid follower of current affairs. I don't know who I'm going to vote for at the next opportunity but will make up my mind having considered what's on offer, not having been swayed by one side or the other.

    I resent the implication by those (not the OP) that suggest the wool was pulled over my eyes by one candidate or another.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,075 ✭✭✭IamtheWalrus


    MayoSalmon wrote: »
    Strange..but seems to be what the majority do..One election cycle everyone is happy to be taxed to the hilt...the next they want there money to spend. Don't understand it personally but you would be the norm it would seem

    I don't really understand the 'dyed-in-the-wool-party-x-supporter'. If party x become shyte, then they won't get my vote anymore.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭gizmo81


    No, I am steadfast in my opinions and judgements.

    For example, as a gay man, I have very little time for Varadkar since his days with Creighton, his voting on Civil Partnerships and opinions of gay families.

    I don't believe his 'transformation'.

    It will take a lot to change my opinion of him!


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,206 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    I have no loyalty to any person or party. I have my values and principles, any candidate or party that realistically furthers those objectives will get my vote.

    Equality, transparency, and action on global warming


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,253 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    Loyal to my beliefs and tend to changed party every election; also not above tactical voting more extreme to push the general parties (i.e. if I was pro Brexit but pro Tory policies I'd might vote UKIP to push that policy home to Tories while hoping Tories would win the election on a more right wing party line).


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


    I tend to be a leftie labor etc. But I have voted FG in the past. I am too young to have been able to vote for FF before their disgrace.

    I find myself voting for a number of Independents in my area. I have a vote in the university constituency in the seanad I used to vote Norris and try to avoid Ronan Mullins!

    Yes i can be swayed. But a number of factors sometimes you vote against the party you don't want rather than for the party you want. Or you vote on personal suitability for the job.

    I would say I have my own principles and I try and vote with them. I have sometimes regretted my vote.

    Lucinda Creighton is two different things ...she is very far right wing. Way too far for my linking. But she is a brilliant legal mind. She was very useful. I disagree with her views on abortion totally. But I admire her legal skill. As it's something that interests me like you might admire a good singer or something. I wouldn't vote for her. But She too was swayed to support the marriage equality bill after a while. She resigned over abortion of course. But perhaps if we understood her intent, while we may vigorously disagree we might see her differently.

    There are a few politicians for whom i do actually believe they have ill intent, beyond self ambition etc egotism. I think FF have an unacceptable standard of vigor in their honesty. I don't expect full disclosure with politicians. But i don't expect that what is held back to be so much in my worst interests it's detrimental to the country and so self serving as to buy you an island. SF have psychos in their mist. I am sorry if that is offensive but that party genuinely scares me.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


    Akrasia wrote: »
    I have no loyalty to any person or party. I have my values and principles, any candidate or party that realistically furthers those objectives will get my vote.
    This is probably a typical Irish voter. With an emphasis on wanting transparency and honesty.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 33,519 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    I've never voted for a party. I don't see why I should. I tend to vote for the politician based on their manifestos and statements, and how that ties in with my own beliefs. So in theory, I could vote for any politician from any party, if they manage to speak to me. My approach is a complete contrast to my parents and my parents in law who vote for the party first, even if the candidate can barely tie their shoelaces together.

    In the past, I voted for Lucinda Creighton when she was in FG. But in the last election, when I had realised that she was not in favour of reforming abortion laws, I dropped my support for her. I regretted that first vote for her.

    In general, I value strong environmental principles, women's health, equality, prudent (even austere) financial policy, reform of the public sector and funding for the first line forces. I'm probably left of centre, but I also have some right beliefs


  • Registered Users Posts: 448 ✭✭Syphonax


    chillin117 wrote: »
    Do you vote the same party/person every election ? Are you one of the Undecided ? Me ? I hate Sinn Fein with a passion, Used to vote Fianna Fail in its hayday, I lived in Drumcondra, Never thought Fine Gael would come to the fore but I was wrong, again.
    I kinda like the fact that our new man is Leo. Just for the reason he is young, Gay (Who would have ever thought that} and maybe just maybe we might see something a bit different from Government. Great little country though !

    Seems you're 'swayed' by little more than his persona rather than a new fresh genuine character who is willing and capable of significant political reform. Already Leo has shown himself to be far from transparent with his appointment of Máire Whelan. He has ingrained 'experience' of 10 years in a self serving system not fit for purpose. Voting for someone because of their sexual orientation would be far down on my list of what Id expect to interview for or have on my CV when going for any job. Wonder who you would vote for up north what with the DUPs stance on homosexuality?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,240 ✭✭✭MayoSalmon


    I don't really understand the 'dyed-in-the-wool-party-x-supporter'. If party x become shyte, then they won't get my vote anymore.


    I get that however I am not a lefty therefore will never ever vote SF AAA Labour etc..policies and idealogy are what matters to me really


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    I'm very swayable!!

    By inclination I would tend towards FG and have previously been a member, but pretty much gave up my membership when Bruton became leader and since then I've seen nothing to persuade me back into the fold.....and Varadkar's denigration of Fitzer pretty much assures my indifference towards them for the foreseeable future.

    I'd happily pledge my support to a decent liberal socialist party, if one were to emerge here, but until then I'll probably just take it election-by-election. The only definites I see for myself are not voting for SF or any the champagne Trots (PBP etc)


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,890 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    I'm swayable as far as particular party, but not the side of the political spectrum they come from. So I will vote left, and the party varies (not least because the socialists insist on changing their name every 6 months :) ). What would encourage me to vote for a more centrist party would be a cast iron commitment from them to fund the health service fully and properly.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,964 ✭✭✭For Reals


    It's about policies. I was a keen Labour supporter but open to the occasional indie. I went Fine Gael in 2011 based on the belief they were the best party for the job and buying into their manifesto. Disappointed is an understatement. At this stage it's more a case of not believing a word from some quarters and trying to find a decent alternative. I'd hopes for the SD's. Whoever tackles the issues of housing/poverty/health will be much appreciated, and I don't care which party does it.


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