Driving with religious apparel

filbert the fox

I witnessed a person driving a vehicle in Finglas the other day with full regalia shall we say from a non Christian religion.

Now, not only could it be argued that the driver's vision was restricted - there must be implications regarding the identity of the driver in the case of a speeding offence involving photographic evidence?

davo2001

filbert the fox wrote: »

I witnessed a person driving a vehicle in Finglas the other day with full regalia shall we say from a non Christian religion.

Now, not only could it be argued that the driver's vision was restricted - there must be implications regarding the identity of the driver in the case of a speeding offence involving photographic evidence?

The former is questionable however you don't need a photo of the person when issuing a speeding fine, all you need is the licence plate.

filbert the fox

davo2001 wrote: »

The former is questionable however you don't need a photo of the person when issuing a speeding fine, all you need is the licence plate.

I beg to differ as the identity of the driver is crucial

davo2001

filbert the fox wrote: »

I beg to differ as the identity of the driver is crucial

Have you ever got a speeding fine? In Ireland the licence plate is all you need, the fine is then sent to the person whom the plate is registered to, again, no need for a photo.

filbert the fox

davo2001 wrote: »

Have you ever got a speeding fine? In Ireland the licence plate is all you need, the fine is then sent to the person whom the plate is registered to, again, no need for a photo.

It is necessary to identify who is driving. A defence of "I wasn't driving" requires one to state who was.

Graham

filbert the fox wrote: »

A defence of "I wasn't driving" requires one to state who was.

I don't see how any type of garments are likely to prevent that.

Nekarsulm

You could argue the same for Padre Pio stickers on the windscreen, and Rosary beads swinging off the rear view mirror .... or young wans' hardly able to see over the dash.

Met a Seat yesterday and the drivers eyes were just about visible over the rim of the steering wheel ....

mfceiling

filbert the fox wrote: »

It is necessary to identify who is driving. A defence of "I wasn't driving" requires one to state who was.

So you state who was driving then.

bladespin

filbert the fox wrote: »

I beg to differ as the identity of the driver is crucial

Nope, just the identity of the car, if the registered owner doesn't name the driver then it's on them.

I ride motorbikes, imagine the fun with the above kind thinking lol.

John_Rambo

filbert the fox wrote: »

I witnessed a person driving a vehicle in Finglas the other day with full regalia shall we say from a non Christian religion.

Now, not only could it be argued that the driver's vision was restricted - there must be implications regarding the identity of the driver in the case of a speeding offence involving photographic evidence?

Are you trying to tell us you saw a Muslim woman driving whilst wearing a Hijab or something similar? Spit it out!

filbert the fox

John_Rambo wrote: »

Are you trying to tell us you saw a Muslim woman driving whilst wearing a Hijab or something similar? Spit it out!

i couldn't tell if it was a woman tbh

Peregrinus

The religious or non-Christian nature of the apparel is irrelevant.

If the apparel was such as to obscure the driver's vision, then there might be a charge of driving without due care and attention, careless driving, dangerous driving, depending on the nature and scale of the impairment to vision. (On edit: A hijab does not obscure vision. Nor does a niqab, normally. A burqa generally would. A wimple tends to obscure peripheral vision, which matters in this context. With a veil, it's going to depend on the colour and weight of the fabric.)

There's no law requiring you to have your face visible for recognition purposes when driving, and so there's be no offence there. People quite often drive in sunglasses and/or a hat, and of course many motorcycle helmets completely cover the face with tinted glass.

coylemj

filbert the fox wrote: »

I witnessed a person driving a vehicle in Finglas the other day with full regalia shall we say from a non Christian religion.

Was it this fellow? The guy on the right, not the bride.

nuac

Mod
I think Perigrinus has dealt with the legal issue.
Closing this while we are ahead