Burning bush piles on land

woody84

So I cleaned off about 40 acres of land and have 10 good size piles of bushes sitting ready for burning. Can I burn them now or have I to wait until September? Probably take a couple of days at least to get them all done.

tanko

You can burn them now, you're supposed to get permission from your local county council to do it, which isn't hard to get around here anyway.

rangler1

You can download an application form to burn from your local Co Council website, its illegal to burn without it at the moment

Parishlad

Last time I was burning I rang the council (Clare) and they didn't really seem to be that bothered. I did have to ring the Fire Station and let them know that i was carrying out a controlled burning of bushes etc. They needed to know when I was starting and how long roughly it would take. Needed to ring them back then to say it was done. Ringing the fire service is important! If some busybody sees your fire/smoke and calls them out (and you haven't informed them yourself) then you will be liable to pay the call out charge which could be €400/€500 I think.

vicwatson

Parishlad wrote: »

Last time I was burning I rang the council (Clare) and they didn't really seem to be that bothered. I did have to ring the Fire Station and let them know that i was carrying out a controlled burning of bushes etc. They needed to know when I was starting and how long roughly it would take. Needed to ring them back then to say it was done. Ringing the fire service is important! If some busybody sees your fire/smoke and calls them out (and you haven't informed them yourself) then you will be liable to pay the call out charge which could be ?400/?500 I think.

Proper order too. As already stated it's illegal to burn without applying to the council. Just follow procedure and avoid a possible conviction.

Bass Reeves

vicwatson wrote: »

Proper order too. As already stated it's illegal to burn without applying to the council. Just follow procedure and avoid a possible conviction.

I saw in the indo a few weeks ago where some councils are trying to charge an administration fee for this privilege

adam14

Call out charge is 3k!

vicwatson

Bass Reeves wrote: »

I saw in the indo a few weeks ago where some councils are trying to charge an administration fee for this privilege

They charge everyone for everything so that's not surprising

patsy_mccabe

Parishlad wrote: »

Last time I was burning I rang the council (Clare) and they didn't really seem to be that bothered. I did have to ring the Fire Station and let them know that i was carrying out a controlled burning of bushes etc. They needed to know when I was starting and how long roughly it would take. Needed to ring them back then to say it was done. Ringing the fire service is important! If some busybody sees your fire/smoke and calls them out (and you haven't informed them yourself) then you will be liable to pay the call out charge which could be €400/€500 I think.

I did just that today. Arrived out to the pile of bushes only to find the lighter giving up after a few tries. Track down again to the house. Despite having a bit of old dirty diesel to help things, fire died after only half burning. Too damp. They dont make it easy for you with restricted months. Thought today would be my last chance.
Makes sense to let the fire brigade know anyway. Hate to think they would be called out on a false alarm and a real fire maybe start off in the opposite direction.

Doltanian

Mod note.
We can't advocate illegal activity here. Thanks. GC

exaisle

Mod Snip quoted reference.

:eek: I assume you're taking the P1$$....

lakill Farm

Ah I missed the good comments.

I hope they didn't suggest burnt oil or a car tyre.

I burnt a large pile a few weeks ago. Cardboard to start it and 1 fire lighter. Only job is oil then I find. And make sure the fire is started down low in the pile

ganmo

And light it on the upwind side

lakill Farm

ganmo wrote: »

And light it on the upwind side

Ye. Let the breeze blow the flames through the pile

White Clover

lakill Farm wrote: »

Ye. Let the breeze blow the flames through the pile

I think Ganmo is saying to burn against the wind. That's the way I always saw it done too.

lakill Farm

White Clover wrote: »

I think Ganmo is saying to burn against the wind. That's the way I always saw it done too.

Oh. I'd do it the way I say. The breeze pushes the flames through the pile.


Explain your method or theory

ganmo

White Clover wrote: »

I think Ganmo is saying to burn against the wind. That's the way I always saw it done too.

No lakhill was right, very helpful if the pile is being a ^**** getting going

White Clover

lakill Farm wrote: »

Oh. I'd do it the way I say. The breeze pushes the flames through the pile.


Explain your method or theory

It's a slow complete burn, whereas if you burn with the wind there's a good chance the fire will stop unless conditions are perfect. Try a small one and you'll see.

White Clover

ganmo wrote: »

No lakhill was right, very helpful if the pile is being a ^**** getting going

Always against the wind here.....
Different folks different strokes!

Odelay

Always start on the windward side here, let the wind do the work.

lakill Farm

White Clover wrote: »

It's a slow complete burn, whereas if you burn with the wind there's a good chance the fire will stop unless conditions are perfect. Try a small one and you'll see.

Will do. Have 150meters of Ditch coming out in December so I'll definitely give it a go.

Last few times I did it my way I was only left with the stumps and a loader full of ash. Have a lad that takes them then if I deliver

Muckit

A leaf blower is a handy and safe way to get things going if a lad had access to one.

lakill Farm

Muckit wrote: »

A leaf blower is a handy and safe way to get things going if a lad had access to one.

I use the mini digger. Start in the evening time and stay with it. Few fire extinguishers at the ready

Floki

A few bags of dry straw on the upwind side and stuff them in underneath the pile.

No diesel or carcinogenic other stuff required.

lakill Farm

Floki wrote: »

A few bags of dry straw on the upwind side and stuff them in underneath the pile.

No diesel or carcinogenic other stuff required.

You need something to get the black smoke

Floki

lakill Farm wrote: »

You need something to get the black smoke

I think we use mobile phones now.

Genghis Cant

Floki wrote: »

A few bags of dry straw on the upwind side and stuff them in underneath the pile.

No diesel or carcinogenic other stuff required.

Yeah, a small bale of straw is good to get her goin.

CHOPS01

When i was a young fella bout 11/12 i had cleaned up the dead grass and weeds on a small little plot at the front of the house. So i thought twould be a good idea to burn my little heap of stuff.
Off i wont to the garage and poured about a pint of petrol into one of the old margerine tubs. Lit my fire and went to throw a drop of juice on the fire. Frightened the sh,te out of me when the flame flew up along the flow of petrol.No damage done but valuable life lesson least. Dont mess with fire!

Thepillowman

CHOPS01 wrote: »

When i was a young fella bout 11/12 i had cleaned up the dead grass and weeds on a small little plot at the front of the house. So i thought twould be a good idea to burn my little heap of stuff.
Off i wont to the garage and poured about a pint of petrol into one of the old margerine tubs. Lit my fire and went to throw a drop of juice on the fire. Frightened the sh,te out of me when the flame flew up along the flow of petrol.No damage done but valuable life lesson least. Dont mess with fire!

Or petrol

Lady Haywire

We'd a good few piles to burn this year with coppicing and general tidying up. Hape of newspapers sprayed with whatever flammable stuff I could find shoved in the bottom (Lynx, body sprays etc, few firelighters & drop of petrol if none to be found) Have the makings of another pile with bits and pieces around the houses, incl a broken kitchen table and 3 chairs. Halloween bonfire!

And nobody sees smoke at night

longgonesilver

Nobody sees smoke but rumour has it that a strange one, is gathering things off the ditches and brewing them up in pots,
she was away,but came back recently, and her mother hasn't been seen in public since.

She has been seen lighting strange smelling fires at night.
She walks around the lake at full moon with her cat.
Locals say she is covered in pictures.

What do you call a gathering of witches?






A Kovu?


:rolleyes:

lakill Farm

I saw that happen to a retired Westmeath fire fighter . The stupid bolix.

CHOPS01 wrote: »

When i was a young fella bout 11/12 i had cleaned up the dead grass and weeds on a small little plot at the front of the house. So i thought twould be a good idea to burn my little heap of stuff.
Off i wont to the garage and poured about a pint of petrol into one of the old margerine tubs. Lit my fire and went to throw a drop of juice on the fire. Frightened the sh,te out of me when the flame flew up along the flow of petrol.No damage done but valuable life lesson least. Dont mess with fire!

Floki

CHOPS01 wrote: »

When i was a young fella bout 11/12 i had cleaned up the dead grass and weeds on a small little plot at the front of the house. So i thought twould be a good idea to burn my little heap of stuff.
Off i wont to the garage and poured about a pint of petrol into one of the old margerine tubs. Lit my fire and went to throw a drop of juice on the fire. Frightened the sh,te out of me when the flame flew up along the flow of petrol.No damage done but valuable life lesson least. Dont mess with fire!

Exact same thing and scenario happened with me when I was 13. Except I used a very small bit in a pea tin.
Needless to say I had to spend 7 weeks in the burns unit in Crumlin hospital.
Don't use petrol if you can help it.
Use anything else or stay away from fires altogether.

Lady Haywire

longgonesilver wrote: »

Nobody sees smoke but rumour has it that a strange one, is gathering things off the ditches and brewing them up in pots,
she was away,but came back recently, and her mother hasn't been seen in public since.

She has been seen lighting strange smelling fires at night.
She walks around the lake at full moon with her cat.
Locals say she is covered in pictures.

What do you call a gathering of witches?







A Kovu?


:rolleyes:

Jaysus........when you put it like that...

blue5000

longgonesilver wrote: »

Nobody sees smoke but rumour has it that a strange one, is gathering things off the ditches and brewing them up in pots,
she was away,but came back recently, and her mother hasn't been seen in public since.

She has been seen lighting strange smelling fires at night.
She walks around the lake at full moon with her cat.
Locals say she is covered in pictures.

What do you call a gathering of witches?


A Kovu?




:rolleyes:

lol I think we'll have to start a monthly poetry/creative writing competition as well as the photo one.;)

keepalive213

Genghis Cant wrote: »

Yeah, a small bale of straw is good to get her goin.

Straws an awful price at the moment to be burning it :-)

Floki

keepalive213 wrote: »

Straws an awful price at the moment to be burning it :-)

Safer though if you have a heap needs burning or if you're not going to push the heap into a corner.
Might as well keepalive213.;)

exaisle

CHOPS01 wrote: »

When i was a young fella bout 11/12 i had cleaned up the dead grass and weeds on a small little plot at the front of the house. So i thought twould be a good idea to burn my little heap of stuff.
Off i wont to the garage and poured about a pint of petrol into one of the old margerine tubs. Lit my fire and went to throw a drop of juice on the fire. Frightened the sh,te out of me when the flame flew up along the flow of petrol.No damage done but valuable life lesson least. Dont mess with fire!

Absolutely! There was a man killed near here very recently when he tried to help a fire along with some petrol. Horrific.

patsy_mccabe

I've an elderly aunt who regurly burns old papers in a barrell in her back garden. She sprays a bottle of kerosene onto it to get it going. No taking to her. :mad:

lakill Farm

exaisle wrote: »

Absolutely! There was a man killed near here very recently when he tried to help a fire along with some petrol. Horrific.

Man killed outside mullingar 8/10 years ago on a tractor pushing bushes into a fire. Tractor was engulfed and he hadn't great mobility and wasn't able to get out of the cab. At least that's what they think happened