Spot spraying when in Glas

50HX

have a parcel in for LIPP in glas and another for Hen Harrier

just wondering what do people use for spot spraying rushes

mcpa isn't allowed (in dry weather i wonder how they could tell if it was used or not)

have a 60litre tank on the weedlicker and wondering what would be the herbicide:water ratio

before glas i got good results on other parcels with 500ml mcpa:60water

farawaygrass

Does a weedlicker classify as spot spraying?
You have to be careful enough too if using a knapsack or lance that you use a spray specified for such. A lot specify not to be used in handheld equipment, like forefront t.

croot

This one might need to be clarified with your planner because you are allowed to use a weedlicker in LIPP and theoretically you can mix mcpa in your tank on the licker. Its just not allowed to be used in a knapsack.

The sprayer isn't allowed at all.

Base price

croot wrote: »

This one might need to be clarified with your planner because you are allowed to use a weedlicker in LIPP and theoretically you can mix mcpa in your tank on the licker. Its just not allowed to be used in a knapsack.

The sprayer isn't allowed at all.

My understanding of the regs is only for the control of rushes.

croot

Base price wrote: »

My understanding of the regs is only for the control of rushes.

OP asked about rushes

Nekarsulm

Surely the obvious choice for rushes is one of the generic versions of Roundup, when using the licker?

You will hit any buttercups and thistles as well, now that they are getting tall.

Base price

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Surely the obvious choice for rushes is one of the generic versions of Roundup, when using the licker?

You will hit any buttercups and thistles as well, now that they are getting tall.

This year I used Barbarian (a generic) 60 odd euro for 20 litres.

Username John

Looking in the GLAS Spec, I see the following for LIPP

"Pesticides are not permitted, except for spot treatment of noxious and invasive weeds and rushes. Where present, rushes must be controlled either mechanically, by weed wiping and/or by spot spraying. While weed wiping and/or spot spraying can take place between 15th March and 1th July, topping to control rushes cannot take place between these dates."

OP - why do you say MCPA is not allowed?
It seems spot spraying is allowed, not just weed wiping...

Or are there other regs people are reading?

Oh, I should say this is the GLAS3 Spec, maybe they are different in earlier versions?

Base price

Username John wrote: »

Looking in the GLAS Spec, I see the following for LIPP

"Pesticides are not permitted, except for spot treatment of noxious and invasive weeds and rushes. Where present, rushes must be controlled either mechanically, by weed wiping and/or by spot spraying. While weed wiping and/or spot spraying can take place between 15th March and 1th July, topping to control rushes cannot take place between these dates."

OP - why do you say MCPA is not allowed?
It seems spot spraying is allowed, not just weed wiping...

Or are there other regs people are reading?

Oh, I should say this is the GLAS3 Spec, maybe they are different in earlier versions?

Glas 1 says the same as above.

croot

Username John wrote: »

Looking in the GLAS Spec, I see the following for LIPP

"Pesticides are not permitted, except for spot treatment of noxious and invasive weeds and rushes. Where present, rushes must be controlled either mechanically, by weed wiping and/or by spot spraying. While weed wiping and/or spot spraying can take place between 15th March and 1th July, topping to control rushes cannot take place between these dates."

OP - why do you say MCPA is not allowed?
It seems spot spraying is allowed, not just weed wiping...

Or are there other regs people are reading?

Oh, I should say this is the GLAS3 Spec, maybe they are different in earlier versions?

MCPA is not licenced for use in a knapsack so you cant spot spray or you would fall foul of the proper chemical usage T's & C's.

CCM

croot wrote: »

MCPA is not licenced for use in a knapsack so you cant spot spray or you would fall foul of the proper chemical usage T's & C's.

I understood you could spot spray with a sprayer i.e. you would target the areas of the field which had the rushes.

50HX

Username John wrote: »

Looking in the GLAS Spec, I see the following for LIPP

"Pesticides are not permitted, except for spot treatment of noxious and invasive weeds and rushes. Where present, rushes must be controlled either mechanically, by weed wiping and/or by spot spraying. While weed wiping and/or spot spraying can take place between 15th March and 1th July, topping to control rushes cannot take place between these dates."

OP - why do you say MCPA is not allowed?
It seems spot spraying is allowed, not just weed wiping...

Or are there other regs people are reading?

Oh, I should say this is the GLAS3 Spec, maybe they are different in earlier versions?

i was always of the understanding that mcpa wasn't allowed with either knapsack or weedlicker

i'm going to go with roundup and a sticker and have to do the hen harrier ground in 10mtr strips

just wondering whats the roundup:water ratio in a 60 litre tank?

croot

CCM wrote: »

I understood you could spot spray with a sprayer i.e. you would target the areas of the field which had the rushes.

You probably can as long as the sprayer has the spot sprayer attachment but the danger is what an inspector would say. I'll always err on the side of caution because of my previous dealings with the dept.

theaceofspies

CCM wrote: »

I understood you could spot spray with a sprayer i.e. you would target the areas of the field which had the rushes.

Why not? It works as well in a knapsack sprayer as well as anywhere else. There is no technical reason why this should be the case - only manufacturers setting the rules to suit themselves?

Muckit

CCM wrote: »

I understood you could spot spray with a sprayer i.e. you would target the areas of the field which had the rushes.

Really the rules are open to interpretation. 'Yeah sure l just sprayed that spot there!'

_Brian

theaceofspies wrote: »

Why not? It works as well in a knapsack sprayer as well as anywhere else. There is no technical reason why this should be the case - only manufacturers setting the rules to suit themselves?

My guess is it's the proximity of the operator to the spraying that would be the problem.
I've done it plenty of times and it works well.

Cavanjack

CCM wrote: »

I understood you could spot spray with a sprayer i.e. you would target the areas of the field which had the rushes.

I was going to spot spray clumps of rushes and thistles with the boom sprayer. It is still spot spraying after all