SMART goals and performance ............

John Mason

absolute oxballs.

someone please tell me what to write.

i have no interest in my job. i just want to come in do my job and go home.

can some give me some generic bull answers, this is just a box ticking exercise. no one will read it after it has been signed off.

i work in admin for a large non-profit

Blacktie.

What?

Slydice

Just do each of the SMART things. If one of them seems off, it's probably not SMART.

Write down something to do:
Sell 10 Things

So...

SPECIFIC - Sell 10 Things
MEASURABLE - 10 Things will have been sold
ACHIEVEABLE - Here's how I will get the 10 things sold
REALISTIC - Here's why I know I'll be able to get the 10 things sold
TIMED - Here's how long it'll take me

Helps keep things in perspective and avoids ideas of SELL ALL THE THINGS!

martyc5674

Slydice wrote: »

Just do each of the SMART things. If one of them seems off, it's probably not SMART.

Write down something to do:
Sell 10 Things

So...

SPECIFIC - Sell 10 Things
MEASURABLE - 10 Things will have been sold
ACHIEVEABLE - Here's how I will get the 10 things sold
REALISTIC - Here's why I know I'll be able to get the 10 things sold
TIMED - Here's how long it'll take me

Helps keep things in perspective and avoids ideas of SELL ALL THE THINGS!

OP is right tho...it's still a pile of sh....

Lady is a tramp

Ugh I hate those things.

One phrase I always used a lot is "maximising efficiencies", they used to like that one!

In my experience, managers tend to hate reviewing them just as much as employees hate doing them.

Neon_Lights

what are your objectives?

martyc5674

Neon_Lights wrote: »

what are your objectives?

From OP 3rd line.

i have no interest in my job. i just want to come in do my job and go home.

And I see nothing wrong with that...a lad wants to come in do the job well that he is being paid to do, yet companies insist on this horse manure that only serves to pee off good workers who only want to do the job and no more.

Neon_Lights

martyc5674 wrote: »

From OP 3rd line.

i have no interest in my job. i just want to come in do my job and go home.

And I see nothing wrong with that...a lad wants to come in do the job well that he is being paid to do, yet companies insist on this horse manure that only serves to pee off good workers who only want to do the job and no more.

yeah i get that, but you must be asked to submit objectives before you do goalsetting no?

I appreciate its all pony, "benchmarking", but once you do it once, it just gets tweaked slightly.

martyc5674

His objective is come in do his job and go home.
He/we should be allowed write that down if that's the truth which it seems to be here.
However we are forced to lie and pretend we are ambitious and career driven when in fact everyone is not. Some/lots of people reach a level and are happy there.
It would save companies lots of hassle if it was acceptable to tell the truth on these goal setting 1:1's... they would then know who is happy where they are and they'd know who wants to progress up the food chain so they can concentrate on developing those people. It would also save the likes of OP from dreading this drivel every few months and ultimately enjoying his job more.
Marty.

dar100

Your SMART goals should be done after your performance apprasil when you find out perceived gaps in role

martyc5674

dar100 wrote: »

Your SMART goals should be done after your performance apprasil when you find out perceived gaps in role

And if there are no gaps?

I.e. John you are expected to make 100 boxes per day.
John is making 100 boxes a day...then leave him the fu<k alone... or John will leave and his successor will leave(if u keep peeing them off)... until your left with 90 box a day man.
Marty.

AndrewJRenko

It really doesn't matter how interested you are in your job. Your SMART goals are what you are supposed to be doing each day or week. You say that you are in 'admin', but I don't think anyone can tell you what your goals should be without more information on what your admin tasks are.

It could be something like "Process all donations accurately and issue receipts within 24 hours' or" respond to phone enquiries within 4 hours ' but it all depends on what your role is.

I'm not sure it is a great idea to post a query like this under your real name, if that is the case here.

Lady is a tramp

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

I'm not sure it is a great idea to post a query like this under your real name, if that is the case here.

I doubt it is their real name, seeing as (as far as I remember) the OP is female!

dar100

martyc5674 wrote: »

And if there are no gaps?

I.e. John you are expected to make 100 boxes per day.
John is making 100 boxes a day...then leave him the fu<k alone... or John will leave and his successor will leave(if u keep peeing them off)... until your left with 90 box a day man.
Marty.

A SMART goal framework is used within an overall performance management cycle that is linked to an operational plan, directly linked to strategic plan!! If the company is not planning on progessing then there is not point in a SMART goal process!! If it is planning on progressing then maybe John needs to make 110 boxes!!

Regardless op should not of been asked to do the goals without feedback and support

martyc5674

dar100 wrote: »

A SMART goal framework is used within an overall performance management cycle that is linked to an operational plan, directly linked to strategic plan!! If the company is not planning on progessing then there is not point in a SMART goal process!! If it is planning on progressing then maybe John needs to make 110 boxes!!

Regardless op should not of been asked to do the goals without feedback and support

It's still arse...

dar100

martyc5674 wrote: »

It's still arse...

:)

AndrewJRenko

dar100 wrote: »

Regardless op should not of been asked to do the goals without feedback and support

Fair enough, but it's not unreasonable to expect an employee to take a first stab at writing down the tasks that they carry out each day and how they are to be carried out.

Neon_Lights

I wouldn't hire the OP they sound like an unmotivated sod.

John Mason

Neon_Lights wrote: »

I wouldn't hire the OP they sound like an unmotivated sod.

i am actually sh.it hot at my job and always receive high praise internally and externally, so that would be your loss.:)

i think i will go with these"Process all donations accurately and issue receipts within 24 hours' or" respond to phone enquiries within 4 hours ' but it all depends on what your role is.

my manager said they have no time to go through this with me, and to just write whatever i think.

Neon_Lights

John Mason wrote: »

i am actually sh.it hot at my job and always receive high praise internally and externally, so that would be your loss.:)

i think i will go with these"Process all donations accurately and issue receipts within 24 hours' or" respond to phone enquiries within 4 hours ' but it all depends on what your role is.

my manager said they have no time to go through this with me, and to just write whatever i think.

Self praise on a forum is no praise. And given the nature of the work, it sounds practically civil service and administrative.

You probably could be a drooling potato and receive praise. I'm a sh*t hot administrator, I've never heard that one before.