'03 Focus drum brake stud change

cletus

My father sheared off two wheel studs from the rear driver side of his 03 focus. Having changed shoes on a mk 4 fiesta, I figured it would be a similar enough job.

However, after a cursory look around the interwebz for torque (173ft/lbs, or fücking tight) I came across one comment suggesting turning the drum ten times in the opposite direction (counterclockwise) while tightening the hub but to stop the bearing binding. This didn't come up on any videos or step by steps etc

Anybody able to shed some light on this, or have anything else to add

mgbgt1978

Have you started this job yet ?
The Drum (c/w Hub) can be removed by undoing 4 bolts at the back of the Hub, so there should be no reason to undo the actual Hub-nut.

Unless the Hub itself is in the way and wont let you remove/replace the Studs.........

cletus

Thanks mgbt, I was just coming back here to say scratch my original post, I had discovered the 4 13mm bolts on the back

TallGlass

I have just literally sat down now, with a cup of coffee in my hand after finishing the exact same job.

Mind you I used an impact gun to remove and put back on the main nut.

The wheels studs are connected to the drum itself so you'll need to replace the outer drum.



Don't do what I done and ordered a part without the wheel bearings, it was a job and a half to get the bearing out and back into the new piece of equipment without a press.

Other than that it was fairly straight forward.

cletus

TallGlass wrote: »

I have just literally sat down now, with a cup of coffee in my hand after finishing the exact same job.

Mind you I used an impact gun to remove and put back on the main nut.

The wheels studs are connected to the drum itself so you'll need to replace the outer drum.



Don't do what I done and ordered a part without the wheel bearings, it was a job and a half to get the bearing out and back into the new piece of equipment without a press.

Other than that it was fairly straight forward.

Can the old studs not just be knocked out and replaced like you would with a disc brake hub?

Is there any reason you removed the hub but over removing the 4 spindle bolts at the back

TallGlass

cletus wrote: »

Can the old studs not just be knocked out and replaced like you would with a disc brake hub?

Is there any reason you removed the hub but over removing the 4 spindle bolts at the back

To be honest with you, knocking the old studs out and putting new ones in looks like one hell of a job and chances are the other two would snap at some stage. The studs would be easily changed I imagine if you had a good source of heat to apply to them and knock them out. Replacing the entire part to me seemed like the best option.

I took the hub nut out as the impact gun makes light work of it, now don't quote me on it, you might find with taking the four bolts out from the back that you could get a bit of trouble getting it off as the shoes have springs that might cross paths and I can't imagine getting them back on would be any fun either.

Have you got the parts etc.. ? Would you know anyone with an impact gun?

cletus

Don't have an impact gun, nor do I have a torque wrench that goes high enough for the hub but.

I've replaced studs before, albeit on a disc brake setup, and didn't need heat or even too much persuasion. I would plan on replacing all 4 anyway

TallGlass

cletus wrote: »

Don't have an impact gun, nor do I have a torque wrench that goes high enough for the hub but.

I've replaced studs before, albeit on a disc brake setup, and didn't need heat or even too much persuasion. I would plan on replacing all 4 anyway

Only thing with the studs is to get to the studs you've to crack open that bolt.

cletus

TallGlass wrote: »

Only thing with the studs is to get to the studs you've to crack open that bolt.

How so? It was my understanding that the official Ford service manual recommends removal via the four bolts at the back. Are you saying that the hub and drum removed together doesn't give you access?

TallGlass

cletus wrote: »

How so? It was my understanding that the official Ford service manual recommends removal via the four bolts at the back. Are you saying that the hub and drum removed together doesn't give you access?

You can try it, the way I was looking at it yesterday if you took the four bolts at the back out, then your taking the entire hub off, shoes and everything. I could be wrong.

EDIT : The hub bolt has a washer in front of it, the drum has a lip on it, so once the nut is tight it's locked then onto the hub spindle, which is then connected to the four bolts, so I am not sure if it will just come off with taking the four bolts at the back off.

mgbgt1978

When you remove the 4 bolts you are removing the Hub and Drum. The Shoes (and Backplate) will remain attached to the Trailing Arm.
The only issue is whether the Studs will hammer out past the Hub. I'm pretty sure they will.
To replace the Studs Cletus will only need to get them 'started' in their holes. He can then pull them fully home from the outside using the wheelnuts (threaded on backwards, with a couple of washers) if the Hub gets in the way of a Hammer.

cletus

Thanks mgbgt. That had been the exact plan. However, turns it my father needed it done sooner than I could manage, so is in the mechanics now. Thanks again everybody for all the info and suggestions