Disc Mower

farmer johnd

Hi folks I'm thinking of buying a new disc mower. Any thoughts on best options out there?

Mx110

farmer johnd wrote: »

Hi folks I'm thinking of buying a new disc mower. Any thoughts on best options out there?

Well all the popular brands out there make a good mower they are all at it for years. It depends on size of tractor and if it for silage and topping and the budget!!

farmer johnd

It's for both silage and topping. 120 hp tractor!

Reggie.

Mx110 wrote: »

Well all the popular brands out there make a good mower they are all at it for years. It depends on size of tractor and if it for silage and topping and the budget!!

Do many mounted mower have conditioners or are you better off going trailed at that point

Mx110

farmer johnd wrote: »

It's for both silage and topping. 120 hp tractor!

Well I got a new kvernland 2628 last year cuts silage very well. Never any fear just back into it and of you go. But I have used krone, Kuhn, pottinger most of them work away grand the Kuhn I will say gets blocked in heavy silage. Krone is good but don't know is it worth the extra money and the same with pottinger.

farmer johnd

I've been told that either Krone or Kverneland are the best options. Yes Krone are very expensive. Malone seem good value but I'm wondering if they are a good mower.

Mx110

farmer johnd wrote: »

I've been told that either Krone or Kverneland are the best options. Yes Krone are very expensive. Malone seem good value but I'm wondering if they are a good mower.

Well you can get the kvernland centre pivot to it would probably be a fairer comparative but the standard kvernland disc will follow the ground as well as any mower. Malone is probably good too comer bed is not bad in some claas mowers. Just remember the day you buy is the day you sell!

farmer johnd

Kverneland centre pivot is actually €1000 dearer than Krone centre pivot. Some say centre pivot is necessary for 9ft mower. Hard to make the right call. But the day you buy is the day you sell.

Mx110

Ah ok well mines not centre pivot and I have no fear of it not follow the ground the is a lot of movement in the linkages. The only time you will get caught out is with a hump running with the row but no mower will level the field as well.

Keepgrowing

Krone 323 here non moco, mounted with centre pivot. Does a lot of mowing and all at 16km/hr, traded in every 5 yrs, won't consider another make as it's just trouble free. Change oil in the bed every year, grease and that's it

visatorro

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Krone 323 here non moco, mounted with centre pivot. Does a lot of mowing and all at 16km/hr, traded in every 5 yrs, won't consider another make as it's just trouble free. Change oil in the bed every year, grease and that's it

You follow that with a tedder? Do you think it makes any difference if you had a conditioner on it?

Reggie.

visatorro wrote: »

You follow that with a tedder? Do you think it makes any difference if you had a conditioner on it?

This is what I need to know

C0N0R

Reggie. wrote: »

visatorro wrote: »

You follow that with a tedder? Do you think it makes any difference if you had a conditioner on it?

This is what I need to know

If it's going to be Tedded straight away conditioner is not required in my eyes, might make it easier to ted but that would be about it. I reckon when you have a cracking spell of good weather, grass mowed with the swather boards out as wide as possible and using a conditioner mower, you can make good dry silage as long as it's not a bear of a crop without tedding. I've seen grass that's been tedded that didn't need it and nearly ended up too dry to pit well. To answer your other question, yes you can buy conditioner mounted mowers too, obviously there a heavier mower. If I was buying a mower for silage I wouldn't look past a conditioner mower.

davidk1394

Have 2 Krone mowers here and I'm very pleased with them. Had a Major and it was a disaster. A friend has a pottinger and he says the bed is made of chocolate. In terms of a conditioner, they are not needed if you tedd out the grass after mowing. If you just rake it after mowing then I'd go for a conditioner mower. A lot of farmers down this way are moving away from a conditioner mowers as they Tedd the grass after mowing.

K.G.

Have mowed with non conditioner and gathered with rake and now have conditioner with grouper and im not going back.for wagon grass cut dry and doubled is fine but wont reduce bale count much if baling.alot of guys go on about heating in grouped swathes but alot of the time thats due to grass being wet cutting.its grand to be talking about wilting but weather dictates everything

Keepgrowing

visatorro wrote: »

You follow that with a tedder? Do you think it makes any difference if you had a conditioner on it?

Tedd most grass. It's raked into 20' anyhow

Moco only necessary when grass is mowed directly for balers. I've had moco here, won't be going back. Much less power needed and faster forward speed

9935452

Mx110 wrote: »

Well I got a new kvernland 2628 last year cuts silage very well. Never any fear just back into it and of you go. But I have used krone, Kuhn, pottinger most of them work away grand the Kuhn I will say gets blocked in heavy silage. Krone is good but don't know is it worth the extra money and the same with pottinger.

Was the kuhn trailed or mounted.
If it was trailed the conditioner belts need tightening . We have been running trailed kuhns since 97 and they only block if the belts are slipping

Bass Reeves

farmer johnd wrote: »

Hi folks I'm thinking of buying a new disc mower. Any thoughts on best options out there?

farmer johnd wrote: »

I've been told that either Krone or Kverneland are the best options. Yes Krone are very expensive. Malone seem good value but I'm wondering if they are a good mower.

What kind of acreage are you topping and cutting. The other point is what is your Budget.

farmer johnd

Like all farmers the budget is always a consideration. But I don't want to buy something that's cheap and useless.

Wessel3

lely splendimo are good job

Grueller

Wessel3 wrote: »

lely splendimo are good job

To my eye they look light compared to kuhn, krone, pottinger or kernel and.

Reggie.

So anymore thoughts on mowers. Half thinking of getting an 8ft mounted Next year. Swore I'd never buy one

blue5000

What did they make at yesterday's auction?

farmer johnd

I eventually bought a Claas 2650 conditioner mower. It's 8ft 6 inches.

farmer johnd

blue5000 wrote: »

What did they make at yesterday's auction?

Where was auction?

blue5000

farmer johnd wrote: »

Where was auction?

Naas, FTMTA, links on the machinery thread.

cute geoge

farmer johnd wrote: »

I eventually bought a Claas 2650 conditioner mower. It's 8ft 6 inches.

New what sort of shillings was it???

farmer johnd

Second hand imported. €7200

Reggie.

blue5000 wrote: »

What did they make at yesterday's auction?

No mounted 8fts there. Only 7fts and they made €4500 plus Vat plus 7.5%

locha

Bit of a side step but do lads own their own tedders or just rely on contractors? Next year I’ll be putting just over 100ac into the pit and have been thinking of getting my own for the last 2 years. Around me they are not at all common, I have family in the West and it seems they are plentiful there.i should add I have my own 9ft Kone mower - no conditioner

lakill Farm

Reggie. wrote: »

No mounted 8fts there. Only 7fts and they made €4500 plus Vat plus 7.5%

Picked up an 8ft disc mower for 4500 euro plus vat. Lely 240. Vat reg here so over 5 years payments and 8 years capital allowance.

That's the mower, tedder and rake sorted. Wrapper in 2018 maybe or 2019 and continue to get the contractor to bale

Reggie.

locha wrote: »

Bit of a side step but do lads own their own tedders or just rely on contractors? Next year I’ll be putting just over 100ac into the pit and have been thinking of getting my own for the last 2 years. Around me they are not at all common, I have family in the West and it seems they are plentiful there.i should add I have my own 9ft Kone mower - no conditioner

Most lads around here (midlands)only had 2 rotor types. They rely on myself with the 6 rotors for big jobs or hay. Anyone doing constant big acres tho will have thier own

KerryStar

anyone got an opinion on the Krone AMR (Activemow) 9ft mower?

older by the day

Hi I just jumped on this page to see have any one an opinion, I have an old 6ft6 mower. There is a bearing gone in the bed. The little balls have gone in to the bed. She is still turning fine. The bolts in the bed really old and rounded. Would I have to rip the bed. Could I cut out around that section with the angle grinder and weld it back on. I know that sounds rough, but I only do about 5 acres of rushes for bedding a year. Or should I scrap it

K.G.

Hijacking this thread with a quick question.anybody come across a disc mower with two hats at each end to make a swath .i have seen it some where before and cant find it now.could have been a front mower

visatorro

K.G. wrote:

Hijacking this thread with a quick question.anybody come across a disc mower with two hats at each end to make a swath .i have seen it some where before and cant find it now.could have been a front mower

Old krone I used to have them but it was a small mower, I'd imagine if you ordered new a dealer would look after you.
Your thinking of picking up without raking?

Reggie.

visatorro wrote: »

Old krone I used to have them but it was a small mower, I'd imagine if you ordered new a dealer would look after you.
Your thinking of picking up without raking?

Not sure if the baler will pick it up non conditioned

K.G.

visatorro wrote: »

Old krone I used to have them but it was a small mower, I'd imagine if you ordered new a dealer would look after you.
Your thinking of picking up without raking?

Zero grazing .ah really just playing with idea.tks

visatorro

K.G. wrote:

Zero grazing .ah really just playing with idea.tks

Picking up with a wagon after wards?

K.G.

visatorro wrote: »

Picking up with a wagon after wards?

As it is we hire in the wagon and cut and buckrake ourselved and its grand but labour has really squeezed for contractors and could see us doing a fair acres for ourselves in time to cow between silage and zerograzing.could see a wagon going for 9 months in the year.nothing serious-idea could be gone next week

Mooooo

Any precision chop crews down ye're way?

9935452

Reggie. wrote: »

visatorro wrote: »

Old krone I used to have them but it was a small mower, I'd imagine if you ordered new a dealer would look after you.
Your thinking of picking up without raking?

Not sure if the baler will pick it up non conditioned

We followed a 8 ft non conditioner mower with the baler and picked it with no problems once you picked it the same way it was mowed

K.G.

Mooooo wrote: »

Any precision chop crews down ye're way?

Ah yea but they are getting thinner on the ground.the young fella got a grassmen dvd lately and it featured mark troy.i was watching it the other night and i just thought the whole thing is gone abit unsustainable.harvester-400k ,an l90 and 235 on the pit.a load 20 ft load filled in 1.5minutes.its coming to the stage where the yards and public roads cant handle the gear.he reckoned 2 million to put show on the road.

visatorro

K.G. wrote:

As it is we hire in the wagon and cut and buckrake ourselved and its grand but labour has really squeezed for contractors and could see us doing a fair acres for ourselves in time to cow between silage and zerograzing.could see a wagon going for 9 months in the year.nothing serious-idea could be gone next week

Lad near me doing what your saying, I'll try find out what he's mowing with

Reggie.

9935452 wrote: »

We followed a 8 ft non conditioner mower with the baler and picked it with no problems once you picked it the same way it was mowed

Well your the first to say that. Everyone claims ya need a conditioner mower for the balers

K.G.

Reggie. wrote: »

Well your the first to say that. Everyone claims ya need a conditioner mower for the balers

As a zero grazer it might work fine the grass is not settled onto the ground as it would for silage.have picked up straight from a mower before and it was ok.you know yourself some of these lads with rakes go missing so we worked away on the straights but he then landed and raked the headlands

Mooooo

K.G. wrote: »

Ah yea but they are getting thinner on the ground.the young fella got a grassmen dvd lately and it featured mark troy.i was watching it the other night and i just thought the whole thing is gone abit unsustainable.harvester-400k ,an l90 and 235 on the pit.a load 20 ft load filled in 1.5minutes.its coming to the stage where the yards and public roads cant handle the gear.he reckoned 2 million to put show on the road.

True but things are heading the one way 're gear, perhaps if opportunity arises yards should have turning pads etc put in to allow em in and out and widen gaps etc. Get them to do the lot as they have the gear to do it and it's in and done then. Lads we get the maize off have big rigs as well, first time he brought the 3 axle 24 ft trailer tho as field rarely dry this time of year. Had to take out the odd fencing post behind the pit where they were tipping

Burning Tires

Reggie. wrote: »

Well your the first to say that. Everyone claims ya need a conditioner mower for the balers

Have done silage for 3 decades, and worked with neighbours and different contractors. Ive never heard anyone say that a conditioner mower was needed if it was being baled.

Reggie.

Burning Tires wrote: »

Have done silage for 3 decades, and worked with neighbours and different contractors. Ive never heard anyone say that a conditioner mower was needed if it was being baled.

Was said on many threads here that I asked that very question. Lads claim the grass falls through the tines so can't be picked up straight after a non con disc mower

Bullocks

Reggie. wrote: »

Was said on many threads here that I asked that very question. Lads claim the grass falls through the tines so can't be picked up straight after a non con disc mower

We had a mower with no conditioner and often baled or picked up with the wagon . I think it would be picked cleaner if you pick up the same direction it was cut alright but it could still be picked either way

Sheepman2

Can bale away at non conditioned grass it can just be tricky at corners where you will miss some on one side and will pull a big lump in and block the other side, I would rather a conditioned row when baling.Only thing about the non conditioned is the baler pulls it in nicely when it gets going as it's almost like a mat