Special Stop Orders

Del.Monte

Back in the day when DM was still well connected it was possible to get a 'stop order' added to virtually any scheduled train - provided you knew the right people.

I'm looking to get the 13.41 Up train from Enniscorthy to stop for me at Kilcoole. I can return on a service train so that's not a problem.

I wonder who you need to talk to these days or has the practice gone the way of the Dodo? Anybody?

Jamie2k9

Del.Monte wrote: »

Back in the day when DM was still well connected it was possible to get a 'stop order' added to virtually any scheduled train - provided you knew the right people.

I'm looking to get the 13.41 Up train from Enniscorthy to stop for me at Kilcoole. I can return on a service train so that's not a problem.

I wonder who you need to talk to these days or has the practice gone the way of the Dodo? Anybody?

You will unlikely get it, the station manager of the departure station must issue stop orders to the driver outside of scheduled services. They are generally only issued for special events, staffing purposes.

With Rosslare un staffed the manager will most likely be Wexford based however it could be Waterford considering it's their drivers which operate the Rosslare scheduled services and Connolly from Wexford/Gory.

tabbey

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

however it could be Waterford considering it's their drivers which operate the Rosslare scheduled services and Connolly from Wexford/Gory.

How do Waterford drivers operate the Rosslare scheduled services?

Del.Monte

tabbey wrote: »

How do Waterford drivers operate the Rosslare scheduled services?

Taxi from Waterford presumably as was the case with the South Wexford line which was operated to suit staff rosters rather than passengers.

Jamie2k9

Del.Monte wrote: »

Taxi from Waterford presumably as was the case with the South Wexford line which was operated to suit staff rosters rather than passengers.

TBH I would be surprised if taxi's are used that often, know some staff which live in South Wexford area so it's more less the same time to Waterford/Rosslare.

me_right_one

One time when I was a pup, meself and some mates were drinking cans along the royal canal near MoyValley, Co.Meath. The Sligo line runs right alongside the canal. At about 01:00am, a 141 loco came along and stopped dead about 50 yards from where we were drinking. We could hear voices, and then about 5 mins later, he took off again, headed for Dublin. I'd love to know what that was all about.

Working class heroes

The Drivers on this line are Rosslare and Connolly based. Not Waterford.

Del.Monte

Working class heroes wrote: »

The Drivers on this line are Rosslare and Connolly based. Not Waterford.

When did this change?

Jamie2k9

Working class heroes wrote: »

The Drivers on this line are Rosslare and Connolly based. Not Waterford.

Rosslare based but considered part from Waterford depot.

There is some swapping with Waterford drivers operating but expect it's based if the regular drivers who work the services are un available.

Perhaps I wasn't clear enough.

GM228

Del.Monte wrote: »

Taxi from Waterford presumably as was the case with the South Wexford line which was operated to suit staff rosters rather than passengers.

The SWL was worked by both Rosslare and Waterford based drivers, at one stage Rosslare drivers worked right through to Limerick Junction, but only went to a crossing point in the latter years (Carrick IIRC).

Waterford drivers worked the last train back to Rosslare and returned to Waterford via Bus Éireann bus, not taxi.

Working class heroes wrote: »

The Drivers on this line are Rosslare and Connolly based. Not Waterford.

Drivers in Rosslare have always been "Waterford based", Rosslare is a sub-depot of Waterford and comes under the Waterford district.

Rosslare has it's own pool of 5 drivers and a further 10 Waterford based drivers sign for the line to act as cover for leave/sickness/specials etc.

They do not get taxis to/from Waterford but would be drivers who live closest to the depot and work direct from Rosslare when required.

Working class heroes

GM228 wrote: »

The SWL was worked by both Rosslare and Waterford based drivers, at one stage Rosslare drivers worked right through to Limerick Junction, but only went to a crossing point in the latter years (Carrick IIRC).

Waterford drivers worked the last train back to Rosslare and returned to Waterford via Bus Éireann bus, not taxi.





Drivers in Rosslare have always been "Waterford based", Rosslare is a sub-depot of Waterford and comes under the Waterford district.

Rosslare has it's own pool of 5 drivers and a further 10 Waterford based drivers sign for the line to act as cover for leave/sickness/specials etc.

They do not get taxis to/from Waterford but would be drivers who live closest to the depot and work direct from Rosslare when required.

No, the Rosslare drivers are "Rosslare" based.
Yes it is part of the Waterford district but they are based/appointed in Rosslare.

I take your point re Waterford drivers covering sickness/leave etc, however, at the moment they haven't enough drivers to cover their own leave(watch out for all the cancelled services on the Waterford/Junction line over the next few months) so would rarely be on the Rosslare line.

Jamie2k9

Working class heroes wrote: »

GM228 wrote: »

The SWL was worked by both Rosslare and Waterford based drivers, at one stage Rosslare drivers worked right through to Limerick Junction, but only went to a crossing point in the latter years (Carrick IIRC).

Waterford drivers worked the last train back to Rosslare and returned to Waterford via Bus Éireann bus, not taxi.





Drivers in Rosslare have always been "Waterford based", Rosslare is a sub-depot of Waterford and comes under the Waterford district.

Rosslare has it's own pool of 5 drivers and a further 10 Waterford based drivers sign for the line to act as cover for leave/sickness/specials etc.

They do not get taxis to/from Waterford but would be drivers who live closest to the depot and work direct from Rosslare when required.

No, the Rosslare drivers are "Rosslare" based.
Yes it is part of the Waterford district but they are based/appointed in Rosslare.

I take your point re Waterford drivers covering sickness/leave etc, however, at the moment they haven't enough drivers to cover their own leave(watch out for all the cancelled services on the Waterford/Junction line over the next few months) so would rarely be on the Rosslare line.

Limerick J cancellations already happening regularly.

Fred Swanson

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Working class heroes

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Limerick J cancellations already happening regularly.

You ain't seen nothing yet:D

Jamie2k9

Working class heroes wrote: »

You ain't seen nothing yet:D

I'm sure not, it was much worse for a period last summer, so guessing it will just be a repeat again.

Hilly Bill

Is this still about stop orders? ��

Del.Monte

Hilly Bill wrote: »

Is this still about stop orders? ��

Go on then, what's the official position?

Hilly Bill

Del.Monte wrote: »

Go on then, what's the official position?

Standing up with the occasional sitting down.

n97 mini

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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The media reported the high cost of taxis for drivers as being one of the nails in the line's coffin.