Where would you put yourself on the left/right spectrum?

AnGaelach

In conjunction with the thread over in politics café, I am interested in seeing how the numbers stack up with the accusation that boards is left/right-leaning. It would also be interesting to compare the difference between sub-boards.

Peregrine

The 'spectrum' is silly.

pangbang

Society is like driving a car with dodgy steering. If it pulls too far the left, you need to over-steer to the right to get back to normal.

That correction is happening across the world right now, another 3 or 4 years till we're back to the middle again.

A little bit right of centre I'd say.

Jim Bob Scratcher

I'm on the Ming spectrum

AtomicHorror

pangbang wrote: »

Society is like driving a car with dodgy steering. If it pulls too far the left, you need to over-steer to the right to get back to normal.

Yes, wildly yanking the steering wheel of this massive complicated thing seems like the smart move.

Beyondgone

Is there a "feck off, Politics" option?

Underground

I believe in the right to free speech and that there are only two genders, which are apparently two of the hallmarks of the right. Go figure.

I would have thought of myself as left of centre.

AnGaelach

Beyondgone wrote: »

Is there a "feck off, Politics" option?

Yes it's the Far-left option.

pangbang

AtomicHorror wrote: »

Yes, wildly yanking the steering wheel of this massive complicated thing seems like the smart move.

Better to let it go straight in the ditch, yep.

The steering is DODGY, inherently, and it'll never be anything else. History just swings left and right constantly, forever correcting itself from one swerve into the other, like a pissed maniac bombing down the m50 after 20 jars.

HalloweenJack

Option isn't there so I'll specify: Left corner forward.

Junkyard Tom

I believe in the right to free speech but I think people who shout too much should be murdered.

Beyondgone

AnGaelach wrote: »

Yes it's the Far-left option.

I'd see myself more as slightly off-kilter. Far left sounds like effort.

Yourself isit

Underground wrote: »

I believe in the right to free speech and that there are only two genders, which are apparently two of the hallmarks of the right. Go figure.

I would have thought of myself as left of centre.

Yeh. The left is a moving target these days. I would have said left even a few years ago.

Junkyard Tom

AnGaelach wrote: »

Yes it's the Far-left option.

Where does Anarchism (in the without rulers and rejection of unjustified hierarchy sense) fall on the spectrum?

Yourself isit

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Where does Anarchism (in the without rulers and rejection of unjustified hierarchy) fall on the spectrum?

It falls in the bolllocky sophomoric unworkable system that could be far left or right.

pangbang

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Where does Anarchism (in the without rulers and rejection of unjustified hierarchy sense) fall on the spectrum?

Probably whatever the opposite is of the current trend.

If you don't like the current trend, people have a tendency to not give a s**t, happy to see it burn down without much effort.

Antifa are a contradiction to this, an anarchist group that supports status quo. But generally I'd stick with what I said.

Discounting perennial anarchism of course.

Persephone kindness

I care about politicians when they genuinely care about people. It's rare. But that is the kind of people I like.

Junkyard Tom

Yourself isit wrote: »

It falls in the bolllocky sophomoric unworkable system that could be far left or right.

I didn't really suggest it as a system (I'm not even sure if can be a system) but more as a way of being i.e. rejecting hierarchies like organised religion interfering in secular life or indeed moral policing which is fairly common.

Personally, far left on pretty much every social topic.

But in terms of watching political dramas unfold, I really enjoy the left taking an absolute beating.

There are a lot of people around me who think the last year has been "the worst ever" while my world has actually been falling apart in a serious way.

I'll give a bit of a reminder that things are grand and their lives are fine but after that, they deserve their self-inflicted unhappiness, which is so laughably trivial.

Jim Bob Scratcher

Left, Right, Center government it doesn't matter. Do you really think these people really represent you in all honesty ? I'm sure most politician's start out with good intentions of wanting to make their country a better place and etc.. , but it doesn't take long for them to become corrupt along the way, and out for their own personal gain while feeding people with lies for their own benefit. In fact the majority of these people have being brought up in privileged homes and had far better opportunities that you and me. The majority of these people are not in touch and will never be able to relate to the average man, the tax payer, the ones who keep them in a job, the ones who fund their extravagant lifestyles, are you. Just let that sink in, next time you get hot under the collar about someone who has insulted your party that you are supposedly affiliated too.

Peregrinus

I'm at the centre, naturally. How else is the centre to be defined?

Glenster

Underground wrote: »

I believe in the right to free speech and that there are only two genders, which are apparently two of the hallmarks of the right. Go figure.

I would have thought of myself as left of centre.

People who only believe in free speech and another thing generally just want to say terrible things about the other thing in my experience.

Underground

Glenster wrote: »

People who only believe in free speech and another thing generally just want to say terrible things about the other thing in my experience.

You're putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5 there. I have opinions on plenty of other issues too, those are the first two that came to mind as identity politics seem to be all the rage these days. You can check my post history if you like, have never said terrible things about the LGBTQ community or any other group, think I slated Alan Pardew once but that's understandable.

Cee-Jay-Cee

I genuinely have no idea what left and right wing politics are so I can't say.

Permabear

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Ted Plain

Socially liberal, financially conservative.

Years of paying 52% income tax has definitely made me more right-leaning as regards social welfare.

pajo1981

Most in Ireland would be socially progrssive but fiscally conservative. Not sure where that fits in.

Beta Ray Bill

Interesting poll
thankfully most of the people and Centre Left/Right. IE people with a bit of cop-on and common sense.

Few left wingers there too though.

OldGoat

The left/right spectrum is not linear but is horseshoe shaped so that the extremities of each side are closer to each other than they are to the centrist view.

valoren

The ability to straddle the fence so to speak is waning.
That's not a good thing.

ELM327

GLaDOS

OldGoat wrote: »

The left/right spectrum is not linear but is horseshoe shaped so that the extremities of each side are closer to each other than they are to the centrist view.

/Drops mike

Poor mike

OldGoat

GLaDOS wrote: »

Poor mike

Dammit I've only just edited that out of my post.

erica74

I'm sure I'll get jumped on and told I'm stupid but I literally have no idea what any of those options in the poll even mean.

GLaDOS

Answering the question, I picked centre-left. Probably left socially, centralist economically. I think the likes of PBP etc are nutjobs anyway.

Sugar Free

By U.S standards, probably centrist.
By most European and certainly Irish standards, firmly right.

It's a very broad label though as right wing on economic policy does not mean you will be right wing on for example, same sex marriage (which I was/am firmly in favour of).

Pure tashte

I'd probably say centre left, but a lot of the more prominent figures in the category; Tony Blair, Hilary Clinton, etc. are not politicians I would agree with.

I think the whole left-right spectrum is a bit outdated now isn't it? Seems like a lot of the emerging ideologies (like libertarianism) borrow bits from both sides. I'm sure Ireland will get plenty of plaudits abroad for it's progressiveness in having an openly gay, son of an immigrant prime minister, despite the fact that he'll be the most right wing leader we've had in years

Wossack

Im right handed

Boom_Bap

Spectrum! Spectrum!!

Everyone know we have a fondness for the Atari Jaguar on boards and you don't even include it in the poll options.

jimgoose

Politically-speaking, I am a Mark I Escort with Mexico wings and a welded diff tear-arsing around a 90-degree right-hander with an Imperial Fuckton of oppy and the handbrake on, looking out the side-window.

Sleepy

It depends on the topic at hand tbh.

I'm pro equality of opportunity, anti-feminist, pro the building of social housing, anti-cradle to grave welfare, pro-education, anti-union, pro access to abortion, anti-religion, anti-Irish, against the idea of corporations and capital investment being subject to lower taxation than individual's labours but sane enough to realise we're a small island that can't go against that in a global economy... I could go on and on...

in short, I'm a pragmatist whose idealism is constrained by reality.

Sosurface

Pretty far left with anarchistic overtones. Yet support very stringent control of immigration. Definitely no party in the Irish lexicon to suit me.

Avatar MIA

Yourself isit wrote: »

Yeh. The left is a moving target these days. I would have said left even a few years ago.

People usually start off Left (idealistic) when younger and move Right (more wealthy, realistic?) when older