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Idea for an App

  • 30-05-2017 2:28pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭


    Don't steal.

    Ok well after hearing there terrible story of the man who forgot about his daughter in the car in hot weather in Tipperary I came up with an Idea.

    What if there was an App that all teachers child minders etc could use. Basically it would be a role call you would take on your phone as a teacher. And all parents would give their number. And as each child in the play school creche minder or school etc was marked in you got a text from an automated system saying 'You child has arrived safely at school.' It would go to both parents. And if your child didn't arrive. After half an hour to account for possible lateness your phone got an automated text saying 'You child didn't arrive safely in school today is everything ok?'

    It would also help stop truancy in older kids. As no way to avoid getting the text and then the parent could make sure the kids were attending.

    Also at the end of the day automated reminders would be sent out just half an hr before to remind parents their children are about to come home.

    So what do y a think?? Am I mental or is a good idea?

    I just thought it would be nice to do something to prevent the kinds of stories like in Tipp.

    Also you could have it linked into garda stations if a parent texted back saying they thought their kid was in school and is now missing.


Comments

  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


    Well I thought it was a good idea..maybe it's silly ..:) Shrug :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    Mental.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


    I also have an idea for a game show. But I shall share that with ya laters ;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


    diomed wrote: »
    Mental.
    I told ya it was prolly a silly idea. :p:o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,599 ✭✭✭sashafierce


    This post has been deleted.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


    Also if the child is not safely at school the parent has to text back to notify the system.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


    This post has been deleted.
    Aha ! Darn it ..someone got there first. :P

    At least though there is such a thing :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


    Right next step then...micro chips for ya kids ! :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


    I think every school should do a role call that way. Shrug.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,123 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    Or could be something built into new cars. You get a text from the car after you lock it saying "There's still someone in your car - did you mean to lock it?" Could be based on the pressure on the seats, like the way the seatbelt warning works. If that existed then babies / kids / or even dogs wouldn't be left in a car for more than a few minutes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,123 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    Right next step then...micro chips for ya kids ! :D

    I would totally GPS / micro chip my kids. Wouldn't even hesitate if it was an easy procedure and didn't cause them any discomfort. At least till they are 12 or 13 or something. Think about it, Madeleine McCann would've been found within hours.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


    Or could be something built into new cars. You get a text from the car after you lock it saying "There's still someone in your car - did you mean to lock it?" Could be based on the pressure on the seats, like the way the seatbelt warning works. If that existed then babies / kids / or even dogs wouldn't be left in a car for more than a few minutes.
    That is a brilliant idea. It's totally possible. My mother's car alerts to certain things.

    It could be linked to the baby seat. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    "There's still someone in your car .
    Baby on Board sticker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Jesus we need apps for everything nowadays, we got by ok before we shouldn't need this ****, I think it makes people more forgetful in the long run.
    How about an app to remind you when to take a **** ?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


    I would totally GPS / micro chip my kids. Wouldn't even hesitate if it was an easy procedure and didn't cause them any discomfort. At least till they are 12 or 13 or something. Think about it, Madeleine McCann would've been found within hours.


    Bar codes. Cmere till mommy scans ya ! :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,123 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    diomed wrote: »
    Baby on Board sticker.

    Yeah, cos everyone with one of those remembers to take them out of the window.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,123 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    Bar codes. Cmere till mommy scans ya ! :p

    "Wait a minute, you're not my kid!!"

    DUN DUN DUUUUNNNN.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


    Jesus we need apps for everything nowadays, we got by ok before we shouldn't need this ****, I think it makes people more forgetful in the long run.
    How about an app to remind you when to take a **** ?
    Us batty people need all the help we can get! :p:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,731 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Get in contact with an Irish company called SalesPulse, who already have an app called Roll Call, which does half of what you have suggested (taking roll and updating data centre automatically to record absenteeism trends in schools).

    They'd need to update it to automatically send personalised notifications to parents.

    Big issues with data privacy and security though.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


    "Wait a minute, you're not my kid!!"

    DUN DUN DUUUUNNNN.
    Easily done! :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,043 ✭✭✭Wossack


    Jesus we need apps for everything nowadays, we got by ok before we shouldn't need this ****, I think it makes people more forgetful in the long run.
    How about an app to remind you when to take a **** ?

    that reminds me! brb


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    Once in a service station I noticed an unattended child jumping in a car with a plastic bag over its head.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 608 ✭✭✭echancrure


    The problem is of course adoption by the service providers: what's in it for the school / creche except another bit of administration? What happens if the roll call is not performed who is responsible? Who has access to the data? How will it be secured? Who will provide the phones?

    Who pays for it?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


    osarusan wrote: »
    Get in contact with an Irish company called SalesPulse, who already have an app called Roll Call, which does half of what you have suggested (taking roll and updating data centre automatically to record absenteeism trends in schools).

    They'd need to update it to automatically send personalised notifications to parents.
    That's a good idea. I will. If it can help prevent children being taken on the way to school or parents losing them at least it helps someone :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


    echancrure wrote: »
    The problem is of course adoption by the service providers: what's in it for the school / creche except another bit of administration? What happens if the roll call is not performed who is responsible? Who has access to the data? How will it be secured? Who will provide the phones?

    Who pays for it?
    GOOD QUESTIONS...

    Well... parents have their own phones. Teachers will not have access to the data ..no one needs to the info in the system can be encrypted. Same when you give your number to hotmail or have automated texts.

    Teachers do roll calls every day already. So the school has to take responsibility for that.

    It could become a thing that the school would ask parents to do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,731 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Purely to prevent kids being left in a car by mistake, it would be a lot simpler to programme your phone to send you a reminder each day/weekday at say 9.15am asking if your kids are where they should be.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


    diomed wrote: »
    Once in a service station I noticed an unattended child jumping in a car with a plastic bag over its head.
    I got nothin.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    diomed wrote: »
    Once in a service station I noticed an unattended child jumping in a car with a plastic bag over its head.

    Thats a disgrace, I hope you said something to the parent.

    Children should always be strapped in when in the car.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


    I am going to write an email to that company suggesting they might take a look at incorporating this idea into what they already do. Thank you osarusan ! :) They might not like it ..or they think of putting it into development for something they might do later :)


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


    Will be pitching my game show idea to AH laters :P Needs fine tuning! Problems make me come up with my bestest ideas though :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,123 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    GOOD QUESTIONS...

    Well... parents have their own phones. Teachers will not have access to the data ..no one needs to the info in the system can be encrypted. Same when you give your number to hotmail or have automated texts.

    Teachers do roll calls every day already. So the school has to take responsibility for that.

    It could become a thing that the school would ask parents to do it.

    Perhaps they do roll call on an tablet, or even an app on their own phone. The app contains the phone numbers of the parents, who receive a "*name* has checked in at school today!" text message. Like a check in on Facebook.

    So the parents have to give their numbers to the school, sure, but they have to do that anyway. And if the teacher doesn't do the roll call, they get a message every 15 minutes until they do.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


    Perhaps they do roll call on an tablet, or even an app on their own phone. The app contains the phone numbers of the parents, who receive a "*name* has checked in at school today!" text message. Like a check in on Facebook.

    So the parents have to give their numbers to the school, sure, but they have to do that anyway. And if the teacher doesn't do the roll call, they get a message every 15 minutes until they do.

    Good points parents have to give numbers anyway.
    All teachers do roll calls first thing. For secondary schools it's every class.

    I know I worked as a teachers assistant for a while in an art school for primary school kids for school tours. It's part of the insurance policy you have to in some cases to be covered. Particularly if there is a switch of teachers a lot.

    If insurance feels you didn't do enough to make sure where the kids where in the building they can argue they are not liable if something happens. It was always pressed upon us roll call was important first thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    The point I was making about the service station is that you can't design an app for stupidity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,123 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    Simple idea might be GPS bracelets. Babies can wear these too. If they were designed to be thin and light then the kids may not mind wearing them. Sure, they could take them off, but it would be one line of defence.

    It would be more passive though, the parent would have to check in to see where their kid is, rather than getting an notification. Whether this would've made a difference in the recent case is hard to tell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,731 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Simple idea might be GPS bracelets. Babies can wear these too. If they were designed to be thin and light then the kids may not mind wearing them. Sure, they could take them off, but it would be one line of defence.

    It would be more passive though, the parent would have to check in to see where their kid is, rather than getting an notification. Whether this would've made a difference in the recent case is hard to tell.

    Not necessarily - the bracelet would obviously have some kind of chip sending a signal - this could be recorded by a receiver in school, and from there on, it's uploaded and the messages sent automatically.

    It's a less secure system (who else could access the signal being broadcast?) than the teacher just taking roll call though.

    The roll call is already being taken, and the data is already being collected (in schools where Rollcall app is used). The data already exists - what's new is the automated notifications to nominated phone numbers.

    Also, it would need to be expanded beyond schools to creches and childminders and the like.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,123 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    Ladies and Gentlemen. May I introduce the betazoid chip...implanted into your brain to give you the complete empathic family experience. Rows are a thing of the past ..you feel your child's pain as your own ...

    The "peace" chip. Removes any aggression or negative thoughts. A life of blissful agreement. The end of war and suffering.

    Could the human race survive with such a thing? Or would it still find a way to wage war and violence? We're into Matrix territory here.

    There'd be no more punk rock that's for sure.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Persephone kindness


    The "peace" chip. Removes any aggression or negative thoughts. A life of blissful agreement. The end of war and suffering.

    Could the human race survive with such a thing? Or would it still find a way to wage war and violence? We're into Matrix territory here.

    There'd be no more punk rock that's for sure.


    Let's do this !:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 638 ✭✭✭Estrellita



    So what do y a think?? Am I mental or is a good idea?

    Well at least you're thinking about a real solution, which is more than I can say for the critics.

    The text service isn't new amongst primary and secondary schools, however there wasn't one for my children's Montessori. I'm not sure if anything has changed in that regard, as that was some time ago. I think you are onto something in terms of attendance of all day care / Montessori's though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,857 ✭✭✭professore


    This is a good idea, but has been done to death for years already, and there are loads of competitors out there, so profit margins are razor thin.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,282 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    I got a good one to pitch, voice shazam, aka just what are those fordiners saying beside me on the bus.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Yourself isit


    Or could be something built into new cars. You get a text from the car after you lock it saying "There's still someone in your car - did you mean to lock it?" Could be based on the pressure on the seats, like the way the seatbelt warning works. If that existed then babies / kids / or even dogs wouldn't be left in a car for more than a few minutes.

    No need for a text - just a beeping sound.

    I actually thought of that myself immediately after the incident.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,123 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    I got a good one to pitch, voice shazam, aka just what are those fordiners saying beside me on the bus.

    Babel fish.



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