Time to get real about the measles epidemic?

Calahonda52

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40056680
Germany to fine parents who don't get kids vaccinated.
Not much chance here, given that the Healy-ray bans don't agree with it.

NIMAN

There a Dr who is doing a regular slot on The Last Word on TodayFM these days, and he advocated parents having their child allowance cut in half if they don't get their child vaccinated.

I think that would be a great idea.

The Backwards Man

Farmers should be given a few extra quid to round up unvaccinated kids in their area and give them a jab when they're dosing the cattle.

freshpopcorn

I might be totally wrong but the people I hear about not vaccinating their children often appear to be well off and a fine wouldn't really make them change their minds.

Donnielighto

Make it a perquisite for attending state funded schools

corner of hells

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Farmers should be given a few extra quid to round up unvaccinated kids in their area and give them a jab when they're dosing the cattle.

They could be tagged or branded too.

They should at least be banned from having access to the internet and social media where they feed their nonsense with Googled articles despite not having the ability to evaluate the evidence, and then spread the bs on Facebook.

The Backwards Man

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I might be totally wrong but the people I hear about not vaccinating their children often appear to be well off and a fine wouldn't really make them change their minds.

You don't need to be poor to be an idiot.

freshpopcorn

The Backwards Man wrote: »

You don't need to be poor to be an idiot.

I know that but the majority of the people I see doing seem to be well off.

retro:electro

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I might be totally wrong but the people I hear about not vaccinating their children often appear to be well off and a fine wouldn't really make them change their minds.

Yes. Usually well off, no job and spend their days reading nonsence articles on the internet.

People who don't vaccinate their kids are morons and are putting their children's lives in danger.

Malari

anna080 wrote: »

Yes. Usually well off, no job and spend their days reading nonsence articles on the internet.

People who don't vaccinate their kids are morons and are putting their children's lives in danger.

Not just their children, the point is that everyone's children are at a higher risk level from non-vaccinated kids.

retro:electro

Malari wrote: »

Not just their children, the point is that everyone's children are at a higher risk level from non-vaccinated kids.

Oh ya totally I agree. Meant to add that in. I think Crèches do it the right way- vaccinate or you're not getting a place.

Capt'n Midnight

It's a numbers game but the odds are getting worse.

Lower vaccination rates combined with more travel abroad and more immigrants, refugees and migrants. The Arab Spring has resulted in poorer health care in many of those countries too.

Syria is proof that Polio can be re-introduced if vaccination rates fall.





Also in Italy
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39983799

The government in Italy has ruled that children must be vaccinated against 12 common illnesses before they can enrol for state-run schools.
...

polio
diphtheria
tetanus
hepatitis B
haemophilus influenzae B
meningitis B
meningitis C
measles
mumps
rubella
whooping cough
chickenpox

Meanwhile here
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/vaccination-deaths-at-children-s-hospital-preventable-1.3080216

Five children died at Our Lady’s Children’s Hospital in Crumlin, Dublin, from illnesses that could have been prevented by immunisation, according to a new study of case files spanning a four-year period.
...

Of the 34 children who survived to be discharged, 19 had serious complications including skin loss requiring grafting, limb and digit loss, seizures, and acute kidney injury.