Neil Jordan settles case against bus which didn't hit him?

mikeybrennan

Seems a little odd to say the least
http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/oscar-winning-irish-director-settles-high-court-action-against-dublin-bus-after-fall-35751803.html

Looks like he got startled by the bus

hairyslug

I hope the agreement was for him to cop himself on

mikeybrennan

hairyslug wrote: »

I hope the agreement was for him to cop himself on

Does DB not have dashcams?

They certainly should have

Obviously there need not be contact, like the case of one driver forcing another off the road...not uncommon around here where busses will force smaller vehicles into the ditch on the Ring of Kerry the odd time.

mikeybrennan

mikeybrennan wrote: »

Does DB not have dashcams?

They certainly should have

They do afaik, and the footage is accessed for the purposes of assessing liability. At least, have seen it in other cities so presume DB is no different.

mikeybrennan

Presumably the footage was incriminating or the case would never have proceeded

the_syco

Sounds like a bus stopped at the pedestrian crossing, but the old dude got a fright, fell, and thought he'd sue Dublin Bus for not hitting him?

Beyondgone

the_syco wrote: »

Sounds like a bus stopped at the pedestrian crossing, but the old dude got a fright, fell, and thought he'd sue Dublin Bus for not hitting him?

He was hobbling along having just had cruciate surgery..and after the fall, couldn't work for a year as he had difficulty walking...erm,,,nothing to do with JUST HAVING BL00DY CRUCIATE SURGERY so?? Did he expect falling over due to being a startled twit was going to cure him instantly of his cruciate difficulties??

The bus probably came at him at a speed that he didn't feel meant it could stop before hitting him, then he tried to speed up to avoid it but because of his injury - which the fall aggravated - he fell instead. Aggressive driving can scare people who's mobility is limited like that, and obviously there was enough evidence that the bus/driver may have been at fault for the case to proceed.

It just might be simpler than someone being a wuss, it could be a bully of a driver causing someone injury with aggressive driving.

But lets assume otherwise, of course.

the_syco

Candie wrote: »

It just might be simpler than someone being a wuss, it could be a bully of a driver causing someone injury with aggressive driving.

The green man was showing, so he crossed the road. The bus came, and stopped before the crossing. Where the funk was the bus meant to stop????? :rolleyes:

the_syco

the_syco wrote: »

The green man was showing, so he crossed the road. The bus came, and stopped before the crossing. Where the funk was the bus meant to stop????? :rolleyes:

For all we know the driver was going at speed and didn't appear likely to stop before the crossing. Presumably there's evidence that shows it's not just some wuss falling over, because the case made it that far.

I'm not saying that's what happened, but it may have not been as simple as is being assumed.

It's probably better to look at both sides of the story, revolutionary as that might be as a concept.

Outlaw Pete

Jayus, we're no angels ourselves, he nearly got butchered boy.

Outlaw Pete

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Jayus, we're no angels ourselves, he nearly got butchered boy.

That hurt, but take the thanks anyway.

c68zapdsm5i1ru

the_syco wrote: »

The green man was showing, so he crossed the road. The bus came, and stopped before the crossing. Where the funk was the bus meant to stop????? :rolleyes:

Well, racing up to the pedestrian crossing and braking to a halt at the last minute is bloody irresponsible. It's like cars that fly up to a corner and stop at the last minute putting the heart across other drivers who think they're going to come straight out into them. If a driver swerved in that instance and had an accident I think it would be at least partly the fault of the idiot who gave no indication he was going to stop in time.

Dravokivich

mikeybrennan wrote: »

Does DB not have dashcams?

They certainly should have

They have CCTV.

BattleCorp

I don't get the negativity on this thread to Neil Jordan. It is easy to see that if a bus driver approached the pedestrian crossing very fast and braked at the last second, then someone could be fearful that the bus wouldn't stop in time and take sudden action to get out of the way and thus injure themselves.

Like has been mentioned before, if Dublin Bus believed that they would win the case, there would have been no settlement. Dublin Bus are notoriously tough to get settlements from. They fight tooth and nail until the very end. Looks like they saw that they weren't going to win this one and decided to settle.

Yamanoto

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Jayus, we're no angels ourselves, he nearly got butchered boy.

Look, Dublin Bus are a company of wolves, but I can't help feeling he's engaging in the crying game.

mikeybrennan

BattleCorp wrote: »

I don't get the negativity on this thread to Neil Jordan. It is easy to see that if a bus driver approached the pedestrian crossing very fast and braked at the last second, then someone could be fearful that the bus wouldn't stop in time and take sudden action to get out of the way and thus injure themselves.

Like has been mentioned before, if Dublin Bus believed that they would win the case, there would have been no settlement. Dublin Bus are notoriously tough to get settlements from. They fight tooth and nail until the very end. Looks like they saw that they weren't going to win this one and decided to settle.

Are they a public company

Should there be disclosure if there's dangerous driving or disciplinary action?

BattleCorp

mikeybrennan wrote: »

Are they a public company

Should there be disclosure if there's dangerous driving or disciplinary action?

Dublin Bus are a semi-state company. The State owns the company.

There could possibly have been disciplinary action, we don't know. Companies aren't required to publicise such proceedings.

Irish Guitarist

A few years ago I was crossing at a zebra crossing when a sports car came speeding out of nowhere and just barely stopped before hitting me. I can see how something like that could scare the crap out of someone.

branie2

What would Michael Collins think?

biko

he was caused to fall to the ground when a bus came around the corner and drove at him in an ?aggressive manner? before it ?suddenly stopped?.

So he got scared of a bus that stopped because the light was red, and fell over...

worded

It's like the Crying Game crossed with Free Willly

RayM

the_syco wrote: »

The green man was showing, so he crossed the road. The bus came, and stopped before the crossing. Where the funk was the bus meant to stop????? :rolleyes:

It happened at the Stephen's Green/Dawson St junction, outside Elverys rugby shop. Ideally, the bus was meant to stop at the traffic lights, several metres before that pedestrian crossing. It looks like he sped up when the lights turned amber, and then slammed on the brakes when people started crossing the road. The design of the junction (it's extremely dangerous on both ends of Dawson St) won't have helped, but the bus clearly shouldn't have needed to slam on the brakes at the last second.

ZeroThreat

Yamanoto wrote: »

Look, Dublin Bus are a company of wolves, but I can't help feeling he's engaging in the crying game.

I feel sick....

seamus

Situational awareness. If you've never had this happen to you, then you're a prime candidate to be run over at some point. I've had uncountable incidents where I had to think twice about whether a vehicle was actually going to stop for a pedestrian light, and even a couple where I had to stop because the car just kept on going.

So there's nothing implausible about a man who was fresh from having major knee surgery, no doubt feeling incredibly frail and vulnerable, getting a fright when he wasn't sure if a bus was going to stop for him and falling over when he tried to speed up.

uck51js9zml2yt

Leaves Boards to go find a bus to fall in front of

murpho999

I don't get the criticism of Neil Jordan here.

If you are crossing a pedestrian crosssing, with the green man light in your favour , whilst using crutches, and see a massive bus that has broken the lights coming towards you at speed then it's no wonder you would take evasive action and easily fall and hurt yourself.

The man is a hugely successful multi-millionaire movie director, so would have no need of the cash so I'd be certain he sued as he suffered injury. A settlement was reached so clearly Dublin Bus admitted some form of liability.

But no, Boards posters know better and the fact the bus did not hit him means he suffered no injury.

Arcade_Tryer

Interesting the tone of this thread compared to the usual vociferous nature of typical insurance claims threads, regardless of the fact that nobody on boards ever knows the full details of the case, or the truth concerning the incidents.

mikeybrennan

BattleCorp wrote: »

Dublin Bus are a semi-state company. The State owns the company.

There could possibly have been disciplinary action, we don't know. Companies aren't required to publicise such proceedings.

They should be IMO ,Don't like that it's behind closed doors

murpho999

mikeybrennan wrote: »

They should be IMO ,Don't like that it's behind closed doors

Legal settlements are always confidential.

A "public company" does not mean that all details of it's running are made public which you seem to think.