Can someone advise please. Old car off road donkeys years, new tax rules

Spanish Eyes

Hoping some kind soul might be able to give a heads up here.

Old car belonging to an elderly relative. Not used since 2006 and has been off road parked up ever since....:eek:

So now elderly relative has finally given permission to have it scrapped/towed away.

Will relative be liable for back car tax since 2006? I know there are new rules re off the road and car tax, but it never affected me nor anyone I know.

I looked up the FAQs and so on, but did not find anything re this kind of situation.

Many thanks if you have any information.

bmwguy

Just if the current owner wants to drive it and tax it again. Anything else, they are fine. I have one off the road over 4 years myself.

Atlantic Dawn

Won't be liable if it's scrapped or ownership transferred, just make sure it's going to a registered dismantlers and they are given a certificate of destruction, otherwise the car might be repaired and end up back on the road with your relative liable for fines.

Spanish Eyes

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Won't be liable if it's scrapped or ownership transferred, just make sure it's going to a registered dismantlers and they are given a certificate of destruction, otherwise the car might be repaired and end up back on the road with your relative liable for fines.

That's something I was concerned about. How do I find out if the garage that tows it away is a registered dismantler and/or would I be entitled on behalf of my uncle to get some document or other to state that it will be dismantled? Sorry all new to me!

Sorry for all the questions. It took so long to get this thing out of his driveway, I don't want him landed with back tax. Thanks for help.

We have the original licensing and reg documents.

Atlantic Dawn

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

That's something I was concerned about. How do I find out if the garage that tows it away is a registered dismantler and/or would I be entitled on behalf of my uncle to get some document or other to state that it will be dismantled? Sorry all new to me!

Sorry for all the questions. It took so long to get this thing out of his driveway, I don't want him landed with back tax. Thanks for help.

We have the original licensing and reg documents.

Here's all you should need...

You cannot be charged for depositing an end-of-life vehicle at an authorised treatment facility, if you are the registered owner of that vehicle and the vehicle is intact. You must bring the vehicle registration documents with you.
If essential parts of the vehicle (for example, engine, gearbox, transmission and catalytic converter) are missing, or the vehicle contains waste, then you can be charged. A good rule of thumb is, if you want the car accepted for free, don?t harvest spare parts of value first.
When you have deposited your vehicle at an authorised treatment facility, the owner or operator of the facility will:

• Issue you (if you are the registered owner) with a certificate of destruction
• Forward the details of the certificate of destruction to the National Vehicle and Driver File, maintained by the Department of Transport, Tourism and Sport

The vehicle must be treated within 10 days of being deposited at the facility.

http://www.housing.gov.ie/sites/default/files/migrated-files/en/Publications/Environment/Waste/WasteManagement/FileDownLoad%2C36811%2Cen.pdf

Here's the list.
http://www.housing.gov.ie/sites/default/files/migrated-files/en/Publications/Environment/Waste/WasteManagement/FileDownLoad%2C36811%2Cen.pdf

Some chancers will arrive at the house with some lashed together A4 page claiming to be an official recycler, avoid these.

jozi

What kind of car is it, maybe someone wants to restore it or is it not worthy?

Spanish Eyes

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Here's all you should need...

http://www.housing.gov.ie/sites/default/files/migrated-files/en/Publications/Environment/Waste/WasteManagement/FileDownLoad%2C36811%2Cen.pdf

Here's the list.
http://www.housing.gov.ie/sites/default/files/migrated-files/en/Publications/Environment/Waste/WasteManagement/FileDownLoad%2C36811%2Cen.pdf

Some chancers will arrive at the house with some lashed together A4 page claiming to be an official recycler, avoid these.

Have a garage place lined up who said they will tow it away free of charge. Grand. I suppose if they either give us a transfer of ownership or destruction cert all will be ok?

Want to do it right and not use chancers etc. Thanks again.

Spanish Eyes

jozi wrote: »

What kind of car is it, maybe someone wants to restore it or is it not worthy?

Not worthy, believe me, but it was ok in its day. A little tin can for going to the shops that's all really. But thanks anyway.

CiniO

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

That's something I was concerned about. How do I find out if the garage that tows it away is a registered dismantler and/or would I be entitled on behalf of my uncle to get some document or other to state that it will be dismantled? Sorry all new to me!

Sorry for all the questions. It took so long to get this thing out of his driveway, I don't want him landed with back tax. Thanks for help.

We have the original licensing and reg documents.

He won't end up with back tax.

Only possible scenario where he would need to pay tax arrears since 2006 (since it was last taxed), is where he himself went to motortax office and decided to tax this car himself.
Then on top of cost of motortax he would be paying (for 3 or 6 or 12 months), he would need to pay arrears for 11 years.

In any other possible scenario, he won't need to pay any tax arrears, no matter what happens with the car.

Spanish Eyes

CiniO wrote: »

He won't end up with back tax.

Only possible scenario where he would need to pay tax arrears since 2006 (since it was last taxed), is where he himself went to motortax office and decided to tax this car himself.
Then on top of cost of motortax he would be paying (for 3 or 6 or 12 months), he would need to pay arrears for 11 years.

In any other possible scenario, he won't need to pay any tax arrears, no matter what happens with the car.

Thank you. A relief to know he will not be liable if he gets rid of it either by a transfer of ownership or destruction, as others have said also.

There is not much information out there about such circumstances, but I may not have googled the correct question either.

CiniO

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Thank you. A relief to know he will not be liable if he gets rid of it either by a transfer of ownership or destruction, as others have said also.

There is not much information out there about such circumstances, but I may not have googled the correct question either.

By transfer of ownership.
By destruction.
By exporting.
By doing nothing.
By giving car for scrap without cert of destruction.

In all scenarios, there won't be any arrears to be paid.

kilk

CiniO wrote: »

By transfer of ownership.
By destruction.
By exporting.
By doing nothing.
By giving car for scrap without cert of destruction.

In all scenarios, there won't be any arrears to be paid.

Just to be clear, if someone bought it for road use, will they not have to pay arrears either? Sorry for the daft q but it's important to a friend who won't take my word

mikeecho

We have an old Honda 50. Hasn't been taxed since 1983. (well the tax disc expired in 1983)

When the declaring a vehicle off the road regulations came into effect, we went to the motor tax office, with the brown log book.

They had no record of the honda 50.

They just said, to do nothing. So we did nothing.

weshtawake

I have a '96 car given to me by my Dad who is unable to drive it now - he is 97. Bring it for an odd runaround and it is in remarkably good condition. It hasn't been taxed for about 3 years and I would like to do so now (NCT is current) but obviously don't want to pay the tax arrears.
What can I do??

jozi

kilk wrote: »

Just to be clear, if someone bought it for road use, will they not have to pay arrears either? Sorry for the daft q but it's important to a friend who won't take my word

If I were to buy these if you today I would be liable only for tax from the 1st of May this year

mikeecho

jozi wrote: »

If I were to buy these if you today I would be liable only for tax from the 1st of May this year

Correct

The new owner is not liable for any outstanding tax due by the previous owner

Buffman

weshtawake wrote: »

I have a '96 car given to me by my Dad who is unable to drive it now - he is 97. Bring it for an odd runaround and it is in remarkably good condition. It hasn't been taxed for about 3 years and I would like to do so now (NCT is current) but obviously don't want to pay the tax arrears.
What can I do??

I'm assuming you transfered ownership of the car to yourself when you got it.

If so, transfer ownership to your father (or anyone else) and when you get the vehicle registration certificate back, either (a) tax it under your fathers name and then transfer ownership back to you or (b) transfer ownership back to yourself and then tax it.